Redskins OTAs

los panda · 05-31-2012, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

I'll be out at the Park later today, anything you all want me to specifically look at?

moss' weight/shape and speed/quickness

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-31-2012, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by los panda

not prone to injury (played in 155 of 160 games)
rarely fumbles (4 fumbles)
can produce (over 50 rec and 700 yards in each of last 3 seasons) *hasn't faded w age - catches and yards have increased in each of those seasons
68 rec, 5 td, and nearly 1,000 yards last season on the wrong side of 30

11 years in the league, never had a 1,000 yard season, didn't break the 700 yard mark until 2009, never had more than 5 TDs in a season. In fact over 11 years he only had more than 2 TDs twice. Only got close to 1000 yards this season because of the suspension of Fred Davis and Santana's injury. Didn't break 60 receptions until 2010. Redskins fans have really gotta get outta this lovefest for the mediocre. That is what Gaffney is, a mediocre journeyman receiver.

los panda · 05-31-2012, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Redskins fans have really gotta get outta this lovefest for the mediocre.

no lovefest, just directly answering your question

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-31-2012, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by los panda

no lovefest, just directly answering your question

Not directed at you, just the people who continue to say that Gaffney should have been kept at all costs as if he were some kind of game changing receiver.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-31-2012, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

I'll be out at the Park later today, anything you all want me to specifically look at?

If Leribeus is still taking reps at center or if he has gone back to guard.

los panda · 05-31-2012, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Not directed at you, just the people who continue to say that Gaffney should have been kept at all costs as if he were some kind of game changing receiver.

ah, it seemed like it was in my direction since you quoted my entire post in your post.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-31-2012, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by los panda

ah, it seemed like it was in my direction since you quoted my entire post in your post.

I quoted Goat first, you answered. You haven't shown a man crush on Gaffney like some here have.

los panda · 05-31-2012, 03:14 AM

i'd have to see all the cap numbers to decide if he should have been kept at all.
good cut if (cap space on 9/9/12) ≤ (2012 cap savings from cutting him)
should have been kept if (cap space on 9/9/12) > (2012 cap savings from cutting him)

Mattyk · 05-31-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by los panda

did he really lose 15 pounds? how is there any way to verify that information? i just watched that screen turned 78 yard touchdown in the 2005 chiefs game and he was downright slender. i haven't seen him move since last season. i hope he did slim down and speed up.

Just by looking at his face I think it's obvious he's dropped some weight

NC_Skins · 05-31-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Just by looking at his face I think it's obvious he's dropped some weight

Wasn't it Smoot that was telling us that Shanny wasn't too happy with how Moss came into camp last year out of shape? Guess he learned quick that wasn't going to fly with Mike like it did with Zorn.

SmootSmack · 05-31-2012, 10:22 AM

I don't recall saying that, but Moss has definitely stepped it up this off-season. No guarantee he'll make the final roster but it won't be for lack of trying.

NC_Skins · 05-31-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't recall saying that, but Moss has definitely stepped it up this off-season. No guarantee he'll make the final roster but it won't be for lack of trying.

Might have been one of the other ES insiders. Couldn't remember if it was you or one of them. Didn't mean to attach that intel to you.

30gut · 05-31-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

I'll be out at the Park later today, anything you all want me to specifically look at?

I have a ton of questions.
Some I won't bother asking (that I would like to ask via PM) because they're probably considered competitive advantage questions, . (i.e. how much shotgun did they use in practice? which formations do they use and how often etc...)
Enough preamble:

The OL:

Where is LeRib playing?
How is Jammal Brown looking? The very breif clip I saw of the OL/OTAs last week it looked like he was still limping.
Who is taking the back-up reps at RT/LT?
Which players are taking reps at Center besides Montgomery?
Does Chester take any reps at Center?
Is Kory Lichtensteiger out there yet?

Skill positions:

How many reps does Paul get at TE and with which unit?
Does Morris take any snaps at FB?
How does Cousins look compared to Rex?

DBs

Which Safeties are out there with the 1st unit?
Who is the 1st unit Nickleback/Slot DB?
Which unit and what spot is Keenan Robinson playing RILB or LILB?

DL

What DL unit (1st/2nd) and where does Jarvis Jenksins play (RDE/LDE)?
Does he take any snaps at NT?

JoeRedskin · 05-31-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

I've thought/said all along Tana would start. The more interesting scenario would have been Gaffney also in camp fighting for a battle. Would he have taken Moss' spot? That would have been a better competition for Moss since Gaffney is healthy and knows the system/playbook vs the recovering Hankerson and recovering/new to the system Morgan.

Even more interesting would be a true competition between Gaffney and Garcon, but there's no way Mike would let it happen. I'd still give Gaffney the clear edge for knowing the system, general experience and having better overall hands. Given Mike's ego, Garcon is the safest WR on the roster even though he's proved nothing...a big reason I hate it when we give an unproven player a huge contract.

Let it go man, let ... it ... go!!

Just buy yourself a Gaffney fathead, hang it in your bedroom, and let the rest go.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-31-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Let it go man, let ... it ... go!!

Just buy yourself a Gaffney fathead, hang it in your bedroom, and let the rest go.

Thank You!

05-31-2012, 03:14 AM	#68
los panda Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: los angeles, ca Age: 28 Posts: 3,857	Re: Redskins OTAs i'd have to see all the cap numbers to decide if he should have been kept at all. good cut if (cap space on 9/9/12) ≤ (2012 cap savings from cutting him) should have been kept if (cap space on 9/9/12) > (2012 cap savings from cutting him) __________________ 7 9 21 28 33 42 43 44 49 65 70 81

05-31-2012, 10:22 AM	#71
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,225	Re: Redskins OTAs I don't recall saying that, but Moss has definitely stepped it up this off-season. No guarantee he'll make the final roster but it won't be for lack of trying. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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