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Old 05-31-2012, 03:57 PM   #91
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As to Cooley, speed was never his thing. I remember when he came out the knock on him was that he was considered to slow to get good separation. If he has slowed down even further, well, that's not good as he will be pretty much a non-factor in the passing game. Even though he is significantly lighter, if Paul can translate his open field WR blocking ability to being able to set the edge as a TE, I can see him replacing Cooley.

Love Captain Chaos - but, if he's got the slows, it just may be the end.
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:03 PM   #92
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I can also tell you Cooley did lose weight, much thinner, but he is SLOW. I really don't see the guy making the team.

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Ok guys I promised I'd post what I saw at today's OTA so here goes. Cooley looks like he's in good shape guy looks skinny actually. He wasn't limping and was full go during team drills.

However, and this is going to sting so be ready- he has CLEARLY lost a step (or 5). Cooley was never a "fast" guy and today he looked flat out slow. But don't take my word for it everyone I was standing with from literally every media outlet said the same. Hes healthy but i wonder if he gets what little burst he had back.

Niles on the other hand looks great this early in transition (again dont take my word Shanahan confirmed when we talked to him during the presser). They want Niles to make an impact on the offense no doubt about it. Like I said in the write up he's getting the opportunity it's up to him now.
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As to Cooley, speed was never his thing. I remember when he came out the knock on him was that he was considered to slow to get good separation. If he has slowed down even further, well, that's not good as he will be pretty much a non-factor in the passing game. Even though he is significantly lighter, if Paul can translate his open field WR blocking ability to being able to set the edge as a TE, I can see him replacing Cooley.

Love Captain Chaos - but, if he's got the slows, it just may be the end.
Cooley primary skill set was being able to find the spots in the zones and break tackles. He never outran anybody, nor did he burn people on 1 on 1 coverages. He'd just find that open spot in the zone, sit in it for the pass and then steam roll over kids for extra yards. If he's even slower than what he was, no bueno.
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Not sure why, but really hoping Paul is something special at TE.
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I wonder if there is any possible way they can trade Cooley.
aging player, knee injury, slow, and big contract...probably not.
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Not sure why, but really hoping Paul is something special at TE.
I think he has the talent to actually surpass Fred Davis. He's already a better blocker and faster.
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~everything included in the OTA recap
this beer is on me bro, thanks for the recap...

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I would say, honestly, Cousins could threaten Rex for #2.
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This is reaching Offiss-Ramsey levels
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And how CP was just a 3rd down back?
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I think he has the talent to actually surpass Fred Davis. He's already a better blocker and faster.
Whoa, might want to pump the brakes just a tad.
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Whoa, might want to pump the brakes just a tad.
I didn't say he will, I just said he had the talent to surpass him. Both of what I've said is true. Paul is a better blocker. Paul is faster. That doesn't mean Paul will become a better TE.
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I didn't say he will, I just said he had the talent to surpass him. Both of what I've said is true. Paul is a better blocker. Paul is faster. That doesn't mean Paul will become a better TE.
Paul might be a better blocker in your opinion and that's fine.
But, he has yet to practice one live rep at TE.
Being a good blocker against DBs and the occasional LB is one thing.
Being an end of the line TE that can set the seal the edge in the running game and sometimes block DEs one-on-one is quite another ball of wax.
I'm hopeful for Paul's successful conversion too but imo he's unlikely to ever reach Davis blocking ability on the line much less surpass it.
And I doubt that's how they want to use him anyway.
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cooley always had borderline offensive tackle speed. his forte is, and always has been, finding holes in zones and breaking tackles
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sounds like if things stay the same, he might be a June cut?
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But, he has yet to practice one live rep at TE.
Being a good blocker against DBs and the occasional LB is one thing.
You do realize he played in the TE set at the end of last season right?

The additional size he's gained will help him tremendously with blocking bigger people. People forget he was in a run oriented offense at Nebraska.

Shanny had an exactly the same type of TE back when he was winning super bowls. His name was Shannon Sharpe.
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You do realize he played in the TE set at the end of last season right?

The additional size he's gained will help him tremendously with blocking bigger people. People forget he was in a run oriented offense at Nebraska.

Shanny had an exactly the same type of TE back when he was winning super bowls. His name was Shannon Sharpe.
Actually, I already knew that as a WR he played in some TE sets last year when Davis was suspended.
Yes, I realize that he's added some size and he's a good blocker for a WR.
Yes, I realize that he's roughly the same size/speed combo as Shannon Sharpe.
However none of it means that Paul is a better blocker then Fred Davis.
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