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Old 06-17-2012, 01:16 PM   #166
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They had enough talent to win in SD. Just couldn't get past NE or IND
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Then obviously they didn't have enough talent and coaching if they couldn't win it all...
then obviously there was no mention of coaching in the post you quoted...
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was it really needed to be included? And they didn't have the talent b/c there have been teams with worse coaching and better talent to win super bowls..
Sd was loaded man cmon
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was it really needed to be included? And they didn't have the talent b/c there have been teams with worse coaching and better talent to win super bowls..
they had enough talent to go 12-4, 13-3, and 14-2 in the regular season. neither marty nor norv have ever made it to the super bowl, let alone won the super bowl, as a head coach.

to say the reason that they didn't have enough talent is a result from other teams winning the super bowl w inferior coaching doesn't make any sense. what are some examples of those teams ("with worse coaching and better talent") impacting the talent level of the chargers players? on an unrelated note, what teams are you referring to that won the super bowl w worse coaching and better talent?

if you go 14-2, you've got enough talent to win the super bowl. if your coach is marty schottenheimer, history is not on your side.
if you go 13-3, you've got enough talent to win the super bowl. if your coach is norv turner, history is not on your side.
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'06 - marlon mccree intercepts brady on 4th down, gets stripped by troy brown, patriots recover, go on to win. if mccree goes down immediately, as most well-coached players do in those situations, who knows how it ends. exit marty
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they had enough talent to go 12-4, 13-3, and 14-2 in the regular season. neither marty nor norv have ever made it to the super bowl, let alone won the super bowl, as a head coach.

to say the reason that they didn't have enough talent is a result from other teams winning the super bowl w inferior coaching doesn't make any sense. what are some examples of those teams ("with worse coaching and better talent") impacting the talent level of the chargers players? on an unrelated note, what teams are you referring to that won the super bowl w worse coaching and better talent?

if you go 14-2, you've got enough talent to win the super bowl. if your coach is marty schottenheimer, history is not on your side.
if you go 13-3, you've got enough talent to win the super bowl. if your coach is norv turner, history is not on your side.

Norv and Marty are both excellent examples of this. Let's not forget Dan Reeves also had great teams in Denver but never won a Super Bowl. Similarly, Marv Levy was the exact same way. His Bills teams lost four straight super bowls in the early 90s. But unlike Norv and Marty, Reeves and Levy made it to Super Bowls. They just couldn't win them whereas Norv and Marty might've coached excellent teams that were probably good enough to win Super Bowls, but they could never make it to one.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:02 AM   #174
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Former Eagles' Prez Banner "laughing" about DeSean Jackson's contract.


DeSean Jackson - Philadelphia Eagles - 2012 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com
According to the Boston Globe, outgoing Eagles president Joe Banner is "having a good laugh" about DeSean Jackson's five-year, $47 million contract.
Per plugged-in Boston Globe reporter Greg Bedard, Banner "never would have done that deal." Banner was considered one of the league's most skilled contract negotiators before losing a power struggle with Andy Reid and GM Howie Roseman. Reid now has absolute power in Philly, in a Belichickian role.

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Eagles receiver DeSean Jackson started a rap label and dropped $25,000 at a Los Angeles launch party. In his office that is still inside the Eagles’ NovaCare facility, former team president Joe Banner is having a good laugh. Jackson received his $47 million extension, in good measure, because Banner had his contract power usurped. Banner never would have done that deal.
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'06 - marlon mccree intercepts brady on 4th down, gets stripped by troy brown, patriots recover, go on to win. if mccree goes down immediately, as most well-coached players do in those situations, who knows how it ends. exit marty
2002 National Championship game, Sean Taylor intercepts Craig Krenzel in the end zone, as he returns it Maurice Clarrett comes out of no where and strips him, Ohio State recovers and goes on to win.

2009 Kareem Moore intercepts Drew Brees and as he is going down is stripped by Robert Meachem who goes in for a TD.

Both of those games would have gone the other way if not for those fluke plays. Those plays are just flukes.
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That Meachem strip was a great play...but so painful.
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I remember that play. If only Kareem Moore could have held onto the ball. The thing about it was the Redskins had the Saints number in that game but they weren't able to overcome them.
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Former Eagles' Prez Banner "laughing" about DeSean Jackson's contract.

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I'm sure he is laughing. I would be too. I wouldn't have paid him that much money after seeing how he quit on the team due to his pouting.


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The Jets are still waiting for safety LaRon Landry (Achilles’ tendon) to be ready, and he might not be until after training camp starts. “When you look at his history, he hasn’t been full speed in a lot of the training camps every day, and watching him, I hope that he can get to that point,’’ said coach Rex Ryan. “We’ll just have to wait and see, see how it plays out.’’ This is exactly why the Patriots passed on him. They don’t need a safety trying to learn a new system in August
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Its awareness (Player trait and coaching trait) and cockiness (player trait and coaching trait). ST knew he was a great player and didn't have great ball security on the play. When you get INT's in football, you're taught to A) hold onto the ball, and B) just go down; you don't have to be superman on a play. Kareem Moore isn't that good of a player, and obviously he ignored his coaches by just going down right then when he intercepted it. Yeah, every once in a while you'll get a play like that that doesn't happen that often. But my favorite quote is Bill Parcells "you are what your record says you are", there were other opportunities in both those game examples you mentioned where the other team could have capitalized or made up for those 'fluke' plays. Its all apart of football.
Well, that's the point. Many things go into the winning of a championship. All that has been asserted is that SD had the talent to do so but was not able to have all the pieces come together at the right time to do so.

Winning the SB relies on more than athletic talent - a point you now seem to concede, but which you originally appearred to deny:

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Then obviously they didn't have enough talent and coaching if they couldn't win it all...
LT's San Diego teams will always be deemed a disappointment b/c, as you say, "they were what their record said they were" - a perennial favorite to go all the way based on their talent that simply never was able to make it to the SB. I would suggest they are on the short list of "Best Teams To Never Win The Superbowl".
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Well, that's the point. Many things go into the winning of a championship. All that has been asserted is that SD had the talent to do so but was not able to have all the pieces come together at the right time to do so.

Winning the SB relies on more than athletic talent - a point you now seem to concede, but which you originally appearred to deny:



LT's San Diego teams will always be deemed a disappointment b/c, as you say, "they were what their record said they were" - a perennial favorite to go all the way based on their talent that simply never was able to make it to the SB. I would suggest they are on the short list of "Best Teams To Never Win The Superbowl".
Agreed. They should be an episode of that "Missing Rings" series.

Too bad for LT.
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