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Old 07-10-2012, 03:01 PM   #31
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surprised Lee didnt make the cut.
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:53 PM   #32
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Re: CSN: "The 53: OL starters look set, battles for reserve spots"

These guys have the Skins O-line ranked 10th in the league, i thought the O-line was not real good last year but i love lists!!!! Eli was sacked the most but got the ring.

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Old 07-16-2012, 05:14 PM   #33
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These guys have the Skins O-line ranked 10th in the league, i thought the O-line was not real good last year but i love lists!!!! Eli was sacked the most but got the ring.

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10th in run blocking (the ZBS certainly helps the OL as a unit play better then the indiviual lineman)
15th in pass protection
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:28 AM   #34
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Re: CSN: "The 53: OL starters look set, battles for reserve spots"

Let's hope Jamaal Brown holds up this year. He's due to have a good year. After trading a 3rd round pick for him two years ago, he's due for a solid season.
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These guys have the Skins O-line ranked 10th in the league, i thought the O-line was not real good last year but i love lists!!!! Eli was sacked the most but got the ring.

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Really interesting numbers. At the end they break down success per location of run play, and percentage of runs at each spot. Interesting numbers throughout, especially that we were #2 at rushing up the middle. Pretty good stuff.
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Undrafted rookie CB Chase Minnifield (knee) will reportedly open training camp on the active/PUP list.

Although Minnifield underwent microfracture surgery over the winter, this still comes as a bit of surprise in that the former Virginia star shined while participating fully in June minicamp. The Redskins are building in roster flexibility with the option to leave Minnifield on reserve/PUP for the first six games. RB Tristan Davis (undisclosed) is also expected to open camp on the PUP list.

https://twitter.com/ESPNRadio980/sta...53675579719681

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Re: CSN: "The 53: OL starters look set, battles for reserve spots"

Is Minnifield being moved to OL?
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Is Minnifield being moved to OL?
Lol Shanny likes em small, give him a shot!
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Really interesting numbers. At the end they break down success per location of run play, and percentage of runs at each spot. Interesting numbers throughout, especially that we were #2 at rushing up the middle. Pretty good stuff.
my question with those numbers, if we were so great in the middle, why were our percentages so low going to it? Draws, pitch and cuts? We have zero power game in the middle...I think the numbers prop up the oline nicely, but not buying it.
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Is Minnifield being moved to OL?
Ha, clicked on the wrong thread, meant to be in the "Open Competitions" thread.
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my question with those numbers, if we were so great in the middle, why were our percentages so low going to it? Draws, pitch and cuts? We have zero power game in the middle...I think the numbers prop up the oline nicely, but not buying it.
It looks like we tried to spread the ball to the ends more than most teams. I am sure others can look at the numbers and align them to the reality, but overall, I think our line was better than most fans perception of it, and that given another year of familiarity, they will not be seen as our top weakness. (Safeties probably will claim that)
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You know, by the sound of it, it sounds like the Redskins are pretty much saying that Minnifield will make the roster, if they want to treat him by putting him on the PUP list.
Not to continue a conversation meant for another thread, but they also put Tristan Davis of the PUP list and I'm not really sure he will end up being kept...
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my question with those numbers, if we were so great in the middle, why were our percentages so low going to it? Draws, pitch and cuts? We have zero power game in the middle...I think the numbers prop up the oline nicely, but not buying it.
I agree.
We almost never run inside the OGs and I would wager the statistical success isn't but rather combination of the ZBS+RB vision produced cutback lanes.
I was saying before the statistical success of our OL is a result of the ZBS.
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It looks like we tried to spread the ball to the ends more than most teams. I am sure others can look at the numbers and align them to the reality, but overall, I think our line was better than most fans perception of it, and that given another year of familiarity, they will not be seen as our top weakness. (Safeties probably will claim that)
I think we can run the ball pretty well, which is cruicial. Helu and Royster ran very good for a rookie tandem and you gotta give credit to the line for some of that production.

I think we pass protect below average, which scares me a little more with a rookie back there this year. My questions in protection is this 1. Is JB gonna be a turnstile? (we will blame it on injury AGAIN if he is) 2. Can Kory L heal and return to the same level he was playing out at out the gate at year? 3. Is Silverblunt going to get serious about pass protection?

We need these 3 things to come through to say we have gotten better at pass protection...we added much need youth and depth, but you cant expect much at this point from them cause their green. I dont know if all 3 can come through, certainly we need a couple.
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I think we can run the ball pretty well, which is cruicial. Helu and Royster ran very good for a rookie tandem and you gotta give credit to the line for some of that production.

I think we pass protect below average, which scares me a little more with a rookie back there this year. My questions in protection is this 1. Is JB gonna be a turnstile? (we will blame it on injury AGAIN if he is) 2. Can Kory L heal and return to the same level he was playing out at out the gate at year? 3. Is Silverblunt going to get serious about pass protection?

We need these 3 things to come through to say we have gotten better at pass protection...we added much need youth and depth, but you cant expect much at this point from them cause their green. I dont know if all 3 can come through, certainly we need a couple.
Let's see if our pass protect doesn't look amazingly better with a qb, that can elude the first guy, and hit receivers in stride. (which we all hope that RGIII can). Also, a qb who can freeze a linebacker due to his speed. It may be that we see quite an improvement from those factors even with the same basic front.
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