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Old 07-18-2012, 06:01 PM   #46
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Re: CSN: "The 53: OL starters look set, battles for reserve spots"

I wish we could have addressed the RT position via FA.
I tired of keeping my fingers crossed that Jamaal Brown (a) won't be injured (b) won't suck.
But, on the positive side Willie Smith showed well when he got his snaps/starts at RT.

Kory L is a good player if he's healthy, if he's not I feel pretty good about Maurice Hurt another rookie who flashed some ability when he got his starts

It would be cool if Josh LeRib could provide an upgrade somewhere along the interior OL (Chester? Will Montgomery?)
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:18 PM   #47
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Let's see if our pass protect doesn't look amazingly better with a qb, that can elude the first guy, and hit receivers in stride. (which we all hope that RGIII can). Also, a qb who can freeze a linebacker due to his speed. It may be that we see quite an improvement from those factors even with the same basic front.
This has been said several times this offseason and I just dont like that statement. Yes it will help with quick pass protection breakdowns where he should be quicker in a small space than Rex, but overall I dunno. I think the RG3 affect will be greater with wide receivers than Oline.
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:16 AM   #48
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This has been said several times this offseason and I just dont like that statement. Yes it will help with quick pass protection breakdowns where he should be quicker in a small space than Rex, but overall I dunno. I think the RG3 affect will be greater with wide receivers than Oline.
Three questions:
Do you think our oline will ever allow a 10 sack game with Griffin as qb?

Do you think that with time running out Griffin will hold the ball and give up a sack fumble a la rex in the Cowboys game?

Do you think the line ain't gonna love getting homemade beignets(hell I would block for those LOL) for a 0 sack day?() (just RGIII's offering of this was an excellent tactic)

Clearly I say RGIII will improve both the first two, based on expectations of his speed and quicker/more accurate release. Line play in pass protect requires something from a qb and the fact we were 15th even with 3 john beck games means we WILL see an improvement no matter what.
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:18 PM   #49
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Three questions:
Do you think our oline will ever allow a 10 sack game with Griffin as qb?

Do you think that with time running out Griffin will hold the ball and give up a sack fumble a la rex in the Cowboys game?

Do you think the line ain't gonna love getting homemade beignets(hell I would block for those LOL) for a 0 sack day?() (just RGIII's offering of this was an excellent tactic)

Clearly I say RGIII will improve both the first two, based on expectations of his speed and quicker/more accurate release. Line play in pass protect requires something from a qb and the fact we were 15th even with 3 john beck games means we WILL see an improvement no matter what.
1. Ugh dont bring that game up. Only time Ive seen the team completely not show up to a game in the Shanny era (as oppose to every other game under Zorn). I dont think so, fingers-crossed???
2. One thing I dont see with RG3 is indecisiveness, so no.
3. Ive never had a beignet but damn I want to try one. So great tactic. Id blocked for one.

One thing that strikes me with our line is the youth movement at depth. Im really liken the guys and plan we seemed to have developed there. My pick for young OL player to most likely shine in camp Compton. I think he could be starter material next year.
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Re: CSN: "The 53: OL starters look set, battles for reserve spots"

You guys should be nicer to Reed Doughty.
He's a veteran and has been given the rice of patches.
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Re: CSN: "The 53: OL starters look set, battles for reserve spots"

My ideal starting 5 lineman (I'm generally always in favor of going with the younger guys 1st if there isn't much of a talent drop off from a veteran)

LT - Silverback
LG - Lichtensteiger
C - LeRibeus
RG - Hurt/Gettis (whoever is better in camp)
RT - Smith

Keep whoever doesn't start between Hurt and Gettis for depth, along with Compton. After those 2 I'm open to keeping any combo of the others for depth. Those are the core 7 lineman I want to go with.
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LT - Silverback
LG - Lichtensteiger
C - LeRibeus
RG - Hurt/Gettis (whoever is better in camp)
RT - Smith
I like the way you think.
Although the right side of the line would be a tad bit inexperienced; it would be line-up I would be look forward to watching grow and gel.
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Re: CSN: "The 53: OL starters look set, battles for reserve spots"

Will Montgomery isn't worth mentioning? Christ Forester definitely graded him above Casey Rabach. But I wouldn't be surprised if this Josh LeRibeus kid is starting to begin the season. But didn't the Redskins draft LeRibeus as a guard?
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:50 PM   #54
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It looks as if the same offensive line that started the season last year, will do so this year. Trent Williams has shown potential the last two seasons, but he's truly nowhere near where Chris Samuels was at going into his third season. Williams, I think, is going to have a pro bowl year.

Kory Lichtensteiger is coming from off a terrible knee injury. He's in my opinion, and many others, the best overall offensive lineman the REDSKINS have. He's done well and is solid at left guard.


Will Montgomery is solid. He's not Jeff Saturday or Mangold of the Jets, but he's dependable and serviceable. He should start all 16 games.

Chris Chester is pretty good at right guard. He got criticized a little last season for not staying with his blocks and allowing too much penetration on his side. But last year was his first in Mike Shanahan's zone blocking scheme. He should be much better heading into his second season with the team.

Jamaal Brown rehabilitated his injured hip all offseason. He did lots of yoga and he says because of it, his hip has felt better than it has in a long time. Does this guarantee that he'll stay healthy for 16 games for the first time as a Redskin? No. Even if he doesn't stay healthy the full season, Brown should play far more games in a season than he has in the previous two.

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It looks as if the same offensive line that started the season last year, will do so this year. Trent Williams has shown potential the last two seasons, but he's truly nowhere near where Chris Samuels was at going into his third season. Williams, I think, is going to have a pro bowl year.

Kory Lichtensteiger is coming from off a terrible knee injury. He's in my opinion, and many others, the best overall offensive lineman the REDSKINS have. He's done well and is solid at left guard.


Will Montgomery is solid. He's not Jeff Saturday or Mangold of the Jets, but he's dependable and serviceable. He should start all 16 games.

Christ Chester is pretty good at right guard. He got criticized a little last season for not staying with his blocks and allowing too much penetration on his side. But last year was his first in Mike Shanahan's zone blocking scheme. He should be much better heading into his second season with the team.

Jamaal Brown rehabilitated his injured hip all offseason. He did lots of yoga and he says because of it, his hip has felt better than it has in a long time. Does this guarantee that he'll stay healthy for 16 games for the first time as a Redskin? No. Even if he doesn't stay healthy the full season, Brown should play far more games in a season than he has in the previous two.
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I just edited that. Thanks for pointing that out.
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I just edited that. Thanks for pointing that out.
Just teasing. We all have typos sooner or later.
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Shannahan bragged about how far Maurice hurt has come in his press conference, saying that him and Polumbus along with Smith would compete for the RT spot.
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Shannahan bragged about how far Maurice hurt has come in his press conference, saying that him and Polumbus along with Smith would compete for the RT spot.



When Jamal Brown tweaked his hip i was wondering why Polumbus was the guy filling in. I think out of the 3 Willie Smith is the best followed by Polumbus then Hurt. With Polumbus only being better than Hurt because of his experience with Shanahan and both the tackle and guard positions.

My speculation (thats what we do around here right?) is that they wanted to keep Willie Smith as Trent's primary back up and then Polumbus OR Hurt as the primary RT back up who can also easily go in at either Guard position when in a pinch. So when Jammal first tweaked his hip they didnt put Willie in at RT because they wanted him to take reps at LT with the second team since that would be his primary roll.

So now im thinking maybe theyre giving up on Brown if theyre gonna let Smith fight for the RT position and not serve as the primary backup to RGIIIs blind side. Or maybe im reading waayyy to much into very minor things....
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From da man himself:

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“Tyler has done an excellent job since he’s been here. Starting at the tackle position and the guard position, he’s played well. I think Maurice Hurt has made some tremendous strides at the guard and the tackle position. He’s a guy that can play both. We have both those guys running now, with Jammal [Brown] being out, at the right tackle position as well as Willie Smith. So those three guys will compete until Jammal comes back and we’ll flip one of them over to the left side behind [Tom] Compton and Trent [Williams].”
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