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Old 08-06-2012, 07:19 PM   #301
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Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.

Chester has a mild ankle sprain.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:07 PM   #302
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So no way he is playing in Bills game I would think even if he seems better - cant afford it becoming worse - wonder if that is going to affect what we see out of RG-3 and the offensive playcalling - anyway good news i guess - sad state of affairs with the line when a minor injury is good news - lol
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With Chester going down in practice today with a left leg injury (severity TBD) I think we can blame bad luck more than poor planning. It's impossible to be two starters deep at every position group and no other team has injuries to 3 starting linemen. I'm fine with how we've addressed our depth with players with NFL starts (Polumbus, Smith, Hurt) and drafted rookies (LeReibus, Gettis, Compton) who will back up the starters. I also refuse to hit the regular season panic button until September.
It's definitely a little bad luck.

But it's hard to say it's just luck -- if injuries decimate our O-line every single year. Injuries are not *that* random -- it's not rocket science -- players who are older and have hx injuries are more likely to get injured again. JBrown/Licht were injured last year, and CChester is one year from 30yrs old. Just saying that it's not completely surprising, without considering "luck" at all. Just hate when we tend to blame some "curse" and "bad luck" instead of admitting this could have been expected.


Anyway, I agree with you - we've drafted some O-line depth, and now's the time to see our depth. Not panicking yet, with a mobile QB and a coach who creates O-lines out of scraps. It could be exciting to finally see developing youth on the O-line, as long as our QB stays upright.


Just don't blame luck, unless it's someone named Luck on the other team.
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It's definitely a little bad luck.

But it's hard to say it's just luck -- if injuries decimate our O-line every single year. Injuries are not *that* random -- it's not rocket science -- players who are older and have hx injuries are more likely to get injured again. JBrown/Licht were injured last year, and CChester is one year from 30yrs old. Just saying that it's not completely surprising, without considering "luck" at all. Just hate when we tend to blame some "curse" and "bad luck" instead of admitting this could have been expected.


Anyway, I agree with you - we've drafted some O-line depth, and now's the time to see our depth. Not panicking yet, with a mobile QB and a coach who creates O-lines out of scraps. It could be exciting to finally see developing youth on the O-line, as long as our QB stays upright.


Just don't blame luck, unless it's someone named Luck on the other team.
I'd say the only injury gamble is Brown. Lichtenstieger is only 26 or 27. All of the backups are under 27. Even Chester being 'almost' 30 isn't a negative. My point was if the Eagles or Texans or Chiefs lost 3 starters on their OL during camp would everyone be bemoaning they didn't have depth or would they say they had a bad stretch of luck?

When we were trotting Samuels, Jansen, Rabach and freaking Pete Kendall out there (not so long ago) you could say that age was a factor in injuries. Hard to blame roster composition for what's going on today.
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Injuries happen. If you pay attention to news around the league there are many other teams with bigger injury concerns right now.
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Injuries happen. If you pay attention to news around the league there are many other teams with bigger injury concerns right now.

This happens every year and some people seem to forget. In preseason if a body part has so much as a mosquito bite on it it's grounds to sit out for a preseason game. In the regular season the criteria is weather or not the injured body part in question is still attached to the body. I know we overuse it but Chester will be fine.

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Kory and Chester are unlucky.
Jammal Brown was predictable.
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It's definitely a little bad luck.

But it's hard to say it's just luck -- if injuries decimate our O-line every single year. Injuries are not *that* random -- it's not rocket science -- players who are older and have hx injuries are more likely to get injured again. JBrown/Licht were injured last year, and CChester is one year from 30yrs old. Just saying that it's not completely surprising, without considering "luck" at all. Just hate when we tend to blame some "curse" and "bad luck" instead of admitting this could have been expected.


Anyway, I agree with you - we've drafted some O-line depth, and now's the time to see our depth. Not panicking yet, with a mobile QB and a coach who creates O-lines out of scraps. It could be exciting to finally see developing youth on the O-line, as long as our QB stays upright.


Just don't blame luck, unless it's someone named Luck on the other team.
Word. Those who mainline Kool-aid would try to simplify your argument to just age, but Kory coming off an (major, sometimes career-ending) injury is arguably a bigger concern/red-flag than age taken alone i.e. Kory was unlucky last year, not in 2012. There's also a pretty solid argument to make that not adding a reliable starter at RT was a major oversight. I hear Yoda saying, "Don't try, dooo right now hehe.

Yeah, there's a lot more than "Luck," which is just Superstition's Irish cousin, at work here.
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The offensive line will come together. Hopefully in the interior of the line, LeRibeus and Gettis can show what they can do. Figure Maurice Hurt in the mix. I'm not too worried about Lichtensteiger or Chester. Brown was given too much credit. Considering that he's missed a lot of games, Shanahan should have considered that Brown would have a set back. It was bound to happen.
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I it makes anyone feel better the Cowpukes are having some severe problems of there own with the interior line.
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There seems to be some debate as to whether or not Chris Williams will become available at some point during the preseason. Apparently, he's going to lose out the starting job to J'Marcus Webb and some teams are wondering whether he will become available. Some pretty weak evidence here: Source, but who knows, maybe he will get released or traded.

If he does become available (a long shot, I think) how much interest would you have in a former first round pick?

I think he'd be a good pickup to be the swing tackle, if he comes here for free. I don't want to trade a draft pick for him unless it's a really low one. Unfortunately, I don't see the Bears thinking that a 6th/7th round pick would be worth giving up on a guy they spent the 14th pick on a few years ago. However, stranger things have happened, if he's released, I'd love to sign him.
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Well, Chester's setback will help rookies like LeRibeus or Gettis to get some good experience.
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Can the offense survive with Polumbus? - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

good read, valid points
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I just read the same thing and was about to post it.. What's always funny is the same people who rip Jammal Brown are the ones most concerned that he's out. From the metrics, Polumbus is an adequate replacement and in the games where he struggled, Brown would probably have the same struggles based on who he was facing.
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Definitely good read. People seem to forget that JB hasn't really been all that great when in the starting lineup to begin with. Are we really going to miss him?
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