Positives & Negatives: Coles' release

Daseal · 02-21-2005, 03:52 PM

Maybe we should get cocky about our seconary when we know we have a 2nd cornerback.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-21-2005, 04:00 PM

I know, I know... STILL I'm holding onto hope that Smoot will be back.

Paintrain · 02-21-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Oh by the way, before everyone falls all over themselves congragulating the Redskins' organization for resolving this problem, recall thgat Coles also cost the organization a first round pick that went to the Jets. Who did they get with that pick and who might the Sins have gotten with that pick?

They traded the pick to the Bears along with their other #1 to move up to draft Dewayne Robertson.. The Bears turned around and sent that pick to the Pats for Ty Warren.. Neither player (nor team) really benefited from that deal..

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/t.../round?round=1

Jerome McDougal, Troy Palomalu and Dallas Clark are the only players of impact that were drafted after the 13th pick the Redskins would have had.

On Coles, if he wants to leave then kick rocks, get the hell out.. I would prefer the Redskins try to restructure his contract and make a trade so they can get something for him rather than let him just walk for no return..

To replace him then I'd like to see them go after Derrick Mason and draft Mike Williams to put with Jacobs and Thrash and hopefully McCants to form a formidable WR corps.. Without better playcalling (which Breaux, Bugel and Gibbs all admitted needed to be improved) and QB play it doesn't matter who is on the field..

illdefined · 02-21-2005, 04:51 PM

dammit guys, having Jansen back won't do near enough to fix this MESS of an offense. neither will Musgrave.

we're in a serious pickle here. we need to hope for:

3) we get an actual non-bust receiver in the draft who can PLAY
2) Taylor Jacobs comes out and has a surprise breakout year ala "Fierce like Pierce"

1) Joe Gibbs already had a tremendous adjustment job looming, now he has to COMPLETELY rebuild, and with new pieces, then make it second nature by next season.

dammit dammit

illdefined · 02-21-2005, 04:53 PM

McCants suit UP

Daseal · 02-21-2005, 04:53 PM

Fierce like Pierce -- I like it!

illdefined · 02-21-2005, 04:55 PM

yeah thanx. just came out, can't believe i havent heard it yet.

NOW SIGN THE DOTTED LINE ANTONIO

SmootSmack · 02-21-2005, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offiss

They are reporting on the wfan that Coles could be released as early as tommorow and the reason for his asking to be released is a meeting he had with Gibb's sighting the team's reluctance to throw the ball downfield, so I guess Gibb's reply was we will continue NOT to throw the ball downfield so we might as well part way's.

This coupled with comment's by opposing scout's saying that our offense is nothing special, and the scheme's are simple and easy to diagnois doesn't bold well in my confidence that Gibb's still has it, I guess were going to find out though.

Although it's possible that Gibbs' thinking was "so long as you and Gardner are my top receivers I'm not throwing it downfield..but if I can find some other receivers that may change"

I mean time and again he kept saying the problem is more than just Brunell, I guess he thought it might have been the WRs more than any of us thought

SmootSmack · 02-21-2005, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I bet the Giants look for a receiver too!

I think LC is trying to figure out some way to enroll at South Carolina and reunite with your boy Spurrier

sportscurmudgeon · 02-21-2005, 08:03 PM

Paintrain:

Wow, the Skins would have had a shot at Polamalu or Dallas Clark? Those are both very good players. McDougal is OK but not nearly at the level of the other two.

Daseal · 02-21-2005, 08:22 PM

SmootSmack - who can blame him. Running curl routes gets annoying.

illdefined · 02-21-2005, 08:32 PM

curls? maybe on a good day. how many of LC's catches were behind the line on screens? to Gibb's and Coles's credit, it did produce some yards, but it was hardly an 'air attack'

Daseal · 02-21-2005, 08:37 PM

That's very true, ill. He caught more screens under Gibbs than with Spurrier!

02-21-2005, 03:52 PM	#46
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release Maybe we should get cocky about our seconary when we know we have a 2nd cornerback.

02-21-2005, 04:00 PM	#47
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release I know, I know... STILL I'm holding onto hope that Smoot will be back. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-21-2005, 04:51 PM	#49
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 37 Posts: 2,631	Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release dammit guys, having Jansen back won't do near enough to fix this MESS of an offense. neither will Musgrave. we're in a serious pickle here. we need to hope for: 3) we get an actual non-bust receiver in the draft who can PLAY 2) Taylor Jacobs comes out and has a surprise breakout year ala "Fierce like Pierce" 1) Joe Gibbs already had a tremendous adjustment job looming, now he has to COMPLETELY rebuild, and with new pieces, then make it second nature by next season. dammit dammit

02-21-2005, 04:53 PM	#50
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 37 Posts: 2,631	Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release McCants suit UP

02-21-2005, 04:53 PM	#51
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release Fierce like Pierce -- I like it!

02-21-2005, 04:55 PM	#52
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 37 Posts: 2,631	Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release yeah thanx. just came out, can't believe i havent heard it yet. NOW SIGN THE DOTTED LINE ANTONIO

02-21-2005, 08:03 PM	#55
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release Paintrain: Wow, the Skins would have had a shot at Polamalu or Dallas Clark? Those are both very good players. McDougal is OK but not nearly at the level of the other two. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

02-21-2005, 08:22 PM	#56
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release SmootSmack - who can blame him. Running curl routes gets annoying.

02-21-2005, 08:32 PM	#57
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 37 Posts: 2,631	Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release curls? maybe on a good day. how many of LC's catches were behind the line on screens? to Gibb's and Coles's credit, it did produce some yards, but it was hardly an 'air attack'

02-21-2005, 08:37 PM	#58
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: Positives & Negatives: Coles' release That's very true, ill. He caught more screens under Gibbs than with Spurrier!

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