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Old 08-26-2012, 01:33 PM   #136
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Remember when Shanny had no choice but to roster Joey Galloway? Or when Lorenzo Alexander had to start? Or when our offensive line was full of aging broken down vets?

Shanny hasn't only created depth at every position (outside of the corners), he's managed to bring in one of the better QB prospects we've ever seen. It's refreshing to see a slow and methodical approach from our GM/Coach.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:14 PM   #137
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Some posts are so moronic they don't deserve any response...and I think we have a winner in this thread
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:34 PM   #138
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To that eventuality.....I offer no response.
or the horse he road in on..
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Old 08-26-2012, 10:26 PM   #139
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I'm not surprised -- Shanahan has been a huge disappointment as a coach (11W 21L, two straight last place finishes in the NFC East, and 0-3 on QBs not counting RG3). Aside from Trent Williams he has done nothing for the OL, not developed a decent run game, and has a secondary that was shredded by Jay Cutler and Andrew Luck in back to back games.

This is venting to some extent but the Redskins finished 12th in the league in Passing yards allowed and 13th in overall defense. Not spectacular but pretty decent for an otherwise shitty team -- so of course he took one of the few strengths and made it a glaring weakness.
Wow.

Look, sometimes with fans the optimism overlooks reality -- but after reading this post, it's clear you got up on the wrong side of the bed. I just hope you remember this post next year when we're competing deep in the playoffs.

1) Records mean nothing, we were rebuilding the past two years. Honestly I'm glad we finished poorly last year -- to grab RG3. Evaluating Shanahan will only come in 2 years --> if RG3 succeeds, we will be good for 10-15 years.

2) Our O-line was one of the oldest in the league, you can't replace it overnight & convert to a zone blocking scheme. I think I saw a stat that we've drafted the most O-linemen over the past 2-3 years. Still deficient but I think they'll surprise this year if healthy. Last game Morris ran for 100 yards & RG3 had no sacks -- against a poor D, but hard to complain. Our depth seems stronger than in past. Remember Rhinehart? Heyer?

3) Yes, our secondary sucks, Cutler killed us and Luck exposed us. We will likely struggle in pass D this year. Raheem Morris could help, but I hope we can pick up a shut down corner to a back loaded contract next year and draft young talent. Talib could be a high risk-high reward acquisition. If Crawford & Chase have as much talent as hype they'll help as well as depth.


Honestly, we're not there yet, but with RG3 I think for the first time over the past 15-20 years, I have real hope for the future. Hope he proves my trust in him.
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:40 AM   #140
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Some posts are so moronic they don't deserve any response...and I think we have a winner in this thread
I think that's unfair, and kinda lame from a moderator if I may be so bold.

Much of the post was simple and undeniable fact e.g. Mike has produced two last place finishes, and that is the bottom line in pro football, winning.

We all hope this is the year things turnaround.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:01 AM   #141
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I think that's unfair, and kinda lame from a moderator if I may be so bold.

Much of the post was simple and undeniable fact e.g. Mike has produced two last place finishes, and that is the bottom line in pro football, winning.

We all hope this is the year things turnaround.
Well this is a thread about the secondary, so I'm not sure why the inaccurate bashing of the oline (even the running game) was necessary.

Am I suppose to commend all posts because I'm a moderator?
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:07 AM   #142
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Isnt that like reverse prejudice agsinst mods? Lol. They should be able to have their opinions too. Were all big boys here. Maybe its just because i am fresh off of ES but that didnt seem so bad. Anyway rite now we are smack dab in the middle of the turnaround. On one side the team is younger, we "supposedly" have a franchise qb, and as opposed to almost everything but tight end being a glaring weakness two years ago, we now have two. O line ( which has atleast two or three working parts, and some young - maybe potential starters in the wings), and secondary. Which imo is dead in the water. Hey like i said two years ago our wr's, rb's, dline, and qb were all dead in the water too. On the flip side we all like to say Shanny is rebuilding , but a loss is a loss is a loss is not a win! To say your happy about losing cus we grabbed rg3 is - well ridiculous. Of course now that is the easy take on it but come on. I mean if you look at Shannys record since Mr Elway walked away it is NOT GOOD. We are at a Crossroads rite now. One foot still in the bad and one foot in the good. Were gonna take another step forward or another step backward - stay tuned.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:43 AM   #143
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Mods have every right to express opinions. My gripe is calling a post moronic. There are some really, really lousy posts. There are posts that don't make any sense, and authors who habitually post nonsense. But the one in question was "full" of facts compared to most posts I read. Even when I read the same nonsense over and over I just wouldn't feel good about calling it moronic...easier to just stick him/her on my ignore list and enjoy this board all the more.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:47 AM   #144
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Clever use of quotations around "full" in '"full" of facts'

How about instead of moronic, I say "inaccurate" that better?
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:59 AM   #145
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I think the post in question was very "negative" and "one - sided". Sort of hit on all the "bad" aspects and not the " good". I dont know if i would call them facts or innacurate either because i think its all opinion. No rite or wrong. Like i said we are at a crossroads - looking behind (which is something concrete ) is going to produce negative comments as well it should. Looking forward ( which is all wishful thinking to be fair ) should produce positive comments. I mean i think shanallen had a hell of a mess to clean up. Age - lack of picks - no depth. Were on our way boys. Original comment was a tad bit on the overly negative and embittered into oblivion side. Lol.
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:01 AM   #146
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Clever use of quotations around "full" in '"full" of facts'

How about instead of moronic, I say "inaccurate" that better?
That's more polite

Maybe it's the election (nastiness) making me want civility more than usual lol
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:03 AM   #147
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Its been several years now since Sean Taylor was murdered and ill be damned if he isnt going to be more missed now than ever before. God could we use his presence in the backfield about now. Im still very optimistic about this regime and snyders silence. That is something nobody wants to give credit to shanallen for - where the hell has mr snyder gone?!?
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Old 08-27-2012, 03:09 AM   #148
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The secondary has played a little suspect this preseason. The defensive linemen and the linebackers have played better than the defensive backs. Hall and Wilson have played well. Crawford the rookie has been a pleasant surprise. But the problem might be the safeties. I would prefer a tandem of Tanard Jackson and possibly Gomes or Doughty as this year's starting safeties. Doughty gives up big play at times as he showed in the first game against the NYG last season. Jackson plays tenaciously when he wants to. I'm still not sure about Brandon Meriweather though. I would prefer him as a reserve.
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:16 AM   #149
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Is there a specific post that people are referring to as moronic or inaccurate? I'm confused.
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:21 AM   #150
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Is there a specific post that people are referring to as moronic or inaccurate? I'm confused.
Yeah, but we should probably just move on
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