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Old 08-03-2012, 10:55 AM   #31
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^ Yeah, I've heard folks knock Wilson but IMO he's one of our better FA pickups in recent years.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:12 AM   #32
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^ Yeah, I've heard folks knock Wilson but IMO he's one of our better FA pickups in recent years.
I think his play really came together during the latter half of the season. And I agree, he has been a very good pickup.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:18 AM   #33
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I think he's probably our most consistent cornerback. Definitely not one of those FA pickups we've regretted. Hopefully he stays consistent this year. That was a really good read, thanks for posting.
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Old 08-03-2012, 01:03 PM   #34
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Great read. Nice insight into how the position is played at this level.

I like Wilson. I think he is an excellent No.2 corner (like Smoot was in his prime). I just don't see him as a guy who can take on the better WR's in the game by himself. Granted, not a lot of CB's can. I am glad we got him but, to me, he's just a piece - a good piece - of the whole. If we could find another like him, I would be happy. It would be better if we could find one of those CB's who is truly a match-up guy ...

along with a stand-out RT, a ball-hawking safety, a Shady McCoy type running back and a game-breaking WR.

Sorry, I digress.
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Old 08-03-2012, 01:31 PM   #35
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^ Yeah, I've heard folks knock Wilson but IMO he's one of our better FA pickups in recent years.
A LOT of Ravens fans in my office were very sad to see him go and thought Washington got a steal. If he shines this year I will agree with them, so far he has been meh to me.
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:32 PM   #36
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Before we all get too doom and gloom here, perhaps we should remember that the Pats and Giants both suffered from some poor secondary play last year yet they played in the big dance. I know that this is not simple are there are many factors in play regarding this. But the point remains that a problematic secondary can be overcome.
Here, here let the wisdom of the Lotus be heard. Just as some of us have said RGIII and the WRs can compensate for struggles across the oline, a defensive front seven can compensate for a struggling secondary. I thought of the Giants but the Pats are a good example as well.

And Morris' coaching is a major positive for the secondary. He will find ways to cover up his group's weakness, the question is to what extent...
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:32 AM   #37
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Merriweather looked like trash on Saturday. So many dropped balls in the INT drills, got burnt on coverage drills. Apparently, he plays defense like he drives a car.


Who is #30 in the secondary now? Not listed on the online roster but looked decent.

Tanard Jackson looked great from what I saw. He's going to start for us I predict.
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Merriweather looked like trash on Saturday. So many dropped balls in the INT drills, got burnt on coverage drills. Apparently, he plays defense like he drives a car.


Who is #30 in the secondary now? Not listed on the online roster but looked decent.

Tanard Jackson looked great from what I saw. He's going to start for us I predict.
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Who is usually lined up opposite Wilson when Hall is in the slot?
Do you mean in camp?
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Unless the pass rush can bail them out, it's going to be a real long year in the secondary.
Exactly - see the Giants
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Josh Wilson started to come on towards the end of the year, and looked like he had grasped hold of the defense.
Yes, Josh Wilson did. I'm hoping he gets pro bowl honors this year.
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According to Raheem Morris, Kevin Barnes is having a strong camp. Let's hope it translates on the field during games.
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According to Raheem Morris, Kevin Barnes is having a strong camp. Let's hope it translates on the field during games.
he also stated that Barnes is MUCH better playing outside than playing the nickel like he was last year . . . hopefully that is true as it would be nice if Barnes can be at least adequate . . .
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From John Keim's weekly email

Q&A with Josh Wilson

Wilson is one of the more insightful Redskins, especially when it comes to talking about his position (cornerback). And with the Redskinsí cornerbacks playing a variety of coverages, I thought it would be interesting to talk to him about playing press coverage and off-man coverage and some of the keys involved in both.

Q: Kevin Barnes was talking about Raheem Morris working with you guys, teaching you some new drills. Has he done anything you havenít seen before?

A: Iíve seen it all. Itís just different options. A lot of guys who havenít been to other teams like Kevin have never seen a different option. You play with your head up or you play outside. Fortunately or unfortunately Iíve been on three teams with different mindsets. Iíve played for about six different coordinators. I know a lot of different ways of doing it. Itís not about a scheme or coaches. You have to find out whatís best for you. Everybody can teach inside man, but if youíre not a great inside man, you shouldnít do it. Itís better suited for you to be a head-up outside guy.

Q: I want to talk about press coverage. Sometimes when you see guys up they jam, and sometimes they donít. Why is that?

A: You got a lot of different things, and you have to be versatile. If you do the same thing every time the receiver doesnít have to think about whatís going to happen. You got a quick jam sometimes. Quick jams are one hands. Jump jams are two hands. In mirror technique you back off. Sometimes you stay sturdy and get your hands on, but itís not a quick fire. You have to mix it up like the receivers mix up their release.

Q: When do you know youíre in trouble?

A: When that receiver stacks you, if that receiver is able to cut you off and has you running right behind him. If Iím behind him (to the side) then I can still catch up, but if he goes (over the top) then youíre in trouble.

Q: Whatís the key to playing press?

A: Patience. You have to be patient. Donít open the gate. Donít get out of there too fast. Let him show the route.

Q: Sounds simple but is it hard to do?

A: Thatís why weíre here and a lot of others are home.

Q: When youíre playing off-man, whatís the key?

A: Thatís more of a read. You have to read the quarterback to the receiver. Thatís a visual, instinctual thing. Press is man-on-man. Youíre in off, you have to do a lot of reading, and your reads can get thrown off. You have to get off the quarterback, and there are different keys when you have to get off the quarterback. Itís a lot more detail work. You can get yourself in trouble real quick if [your eyes] linger too long. You hear people say you got your eyes stuck in the backfield. That can get you in trouble.

Q: If youíre playing off-man, how deep can you let the receiver get into you before you open and run?

A: Thatís a personal preference. You have to know what speed you have and what route you think heíll run. You always know your speed. Thereís not any one way to tell anyone to do it. You have to be a player and feel when do you need to get out of there. What kind of speed guy is he? Is he running full speed? Do I know this guy well enough to know heís running full speed? So you have to study your opponents, too.

Q: How quickly can you narrow what route a receiver is going to run?

A: I can narrow down the routes off the first step. As soon as he does his first step, he only has two choices left. In off, you can narrow it down by what the quarterback does and by how many steps he takes. If he takes a three-step drop, itís quick. If itís five steps, itís a little deeper, and if itís seven, then itís a real route. Then you get your eyes back on (the receiver) and see what stem heís giving you.

Q: Sometimes on a jam Iíll see a cornerback use his outside hand to jam a receiver who is taking an outside release. Can that get you in trouble?

A: You can do that. It depends on what position you have him in. If you still have leverage and say heís (even), then I can get him outside. But if Iím right here (too far inside), and he can get my outside shoulder. Ö If he gets his hands on that shoulder, heís gonna have me beat. Itís all about leverage. Ö Really itís all about leverage, and a lot of times you want to show him something. You want to show the quarterback something. So I might show you Iím outside and you think I got this inside route where as soon as you throw it Iím diving at that.
Very good read! I'm more confident with R. Morris as a Secondary coach, but still hate the fact that Haslett is the D coordinator. Never liked him! Bring back G.Williams...................oh,.................. ..wait.........................
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We should have kept OJ on board. Id say we should have kept Landry too but i dont feel like arguing wit the dirty 30 haters. Meriweathers ok.. i liked that pickup now that we let both our safetys go.. still scratching my head.. for Josh Morgan??? We just added Garcon, Cooley will be healthy, RG will get the ball to guys like Santana & Fred who suffered because we had Rex/Beck taking snaps. And the only reason i liked the Tanard Jackson pickup because we put ourselves in such a rough spot out there.
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