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Old 08-24-2012, 01:42 PM   #106
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Same here. Trouble is if you don't get pressure on the QB just by rushing 4, then you give the opposing QB and WRs plenty of time to get open against our bum secondary. Orakpo and Kerrigan are so key for us. If they can get pressure without having to send the house, then the LBs can drop into a zone and take away the underneath outlets, while the QB won't have time to go deep over our bum secondary.

But if we have to send the house to get pressure, we're in trouble. It's all up to Orakpo and Kerrigan (and the D Line) to hide the secondary problems.
That's what I said earlier about the Giants and their ability to overcome a poor secondary. They were able to generate a rush with their front-four and not expose the secondary.
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Old 08-24-2012, 01:59 PM   #107
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Its gonna take more than Rak and Kerrigan. We are gonna need inside push and would like to see Wilson or Jackson in the "rush" rotation as well, keeping Rak and Kerrigan fresh.

I think are safety coverage will be much better than last years.
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That's what I said earlier about the Giants and their ability to overcome a poor secondary. They were able to generate a rush with their front-four and not expose the secondary.
Rolle and phillips are miles above our safeties to be fair.
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:17 PM   #109
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Rolle and phillips are miles above our safeties to be fair.
ummm no. Rolle certainly is not. Phillips played decent after shaking the injury bug. I wouldnt say miles, perhaps the closer mesurement would be feet.
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:28 PM   #110
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ummm no. Rolle certainly is not. Phillips played decent after shaking the injury bug. I wouldnt say miles, perhaps the closer mesurement would be feet.
I am a little biased cus im a miami grad but i hate the gints with a passion. Rolle had 96 tackles last year and was a huge part of the run they made. Who is he only feet better than on our team ? Jackson - doughty - or merriweather? Come on man. Id give up our entire lot for those two in a heartbeat. I stand by my statement.
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Merriweather, Jackson, Williams I think coverage-wise potential to be just a strong or stronger. Up on run support, i give rolle and phillips a potentially overwhelming edge. They are certainly a better combo, but in the context, we may slightly below average to average play, the giants safety play is probably average to slightly above average. They are nothing spectaculer at this point, largely based on can Phillips take that next step? If he does, then its a different convo.
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Merriweather, Jackson, Williams I think coverage-wise potential to be just a strong or stronger. Up on run support, i give rolle and phillips a potentially overwhelming edge. They are certainly a better combo, but in the context, we may slightly below average to average play, the giants safety play is probably average to slightly above average. They are nothing spectaculer at this point, largely based on can Phillips take that next step? If he does, then its a different convo.
Fair enough. At this point we have seen the giants duo step up. Our guys are a complete question mark because they are all new to the team. With every ounce of my being i hope you will be giving me a big fat i told you so later on. Lol.
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I hope so, we havent had good safety play since Sean Taylor which has felt like a long time.
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As a miami grad and lifelong skins fan he was my guy. Wear my number 21 every sunday ( sometimes my 44 ). God needed a safety.
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Same here. Trouble is if you don't get pressure on the QB just by rushing 4, then you give the opposing QB and WRs plenty of time to get open against our bum secondary. Orakpo and Kerrigan are so key for us. If they can get pressure without having to send the house, then the LBs can drop into a zone and take away the underneath outlets, while the QB won't have time to go deep over our bum secondary.

But if we have to send the house to get pressure, we're in trouble. It's all up to Orakpo and Kerrigan (and the D Line) to hide the secondary problems.
They play a major part in the pass rush but the inside guys need to step it up as well. I think we have a good defense, but I'm not sure I see one that can dominate.
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Because of our poor offense, the Redskins have typically not being able to take advantage of turnovers. However, you are correct...when Hall whiffs, he whiffs big time. And he also can't tackle, yet somehow he ends up 2nd or 3rd in team tackles (at least way back).
D Hall must be given some credit for putting his helmet in opposing ball carriers chests in the last two years. He has gotten alot more physical than he used to be. I would say he went from a below average tackler to an average tackler. He had a fairly good year (or alot better than previous years) last year. I'm not afraid to give him a little credit for getting a bit more physical.

This year, I expect him to be more improved as a tackler than last year. I guess they plan on putting him on the slot receiver some this year, due to Barnes inability to line up on the inside. With Hall being closer to the ball, I could see him snag a few more INT's this year as well. And with him playing under the umbrella, and closer to the line of scrimmage a little more frequently, he should have more tackles as opposed to previous years as well.
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I hope so, we havent had good safety play since Sean Taylor which has felt like a long time.
A safety like Sean comes along once every 100 years. Very few safeties in the NFL can play the way Sean played.
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:18 PM   #118
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A safety like Sean comes along once every 100 years. Very few safeties in the NFL can play the way Sean played.
Yeah when people talk about difference making safeties only a few come to mind.

Lott
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Atwater

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Yeah when people talk about difference making safeties only a few come to mind.

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ummmmm, Ken Houston anyone???
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Yeah when people talk about difference making safeties only a few come to mind.

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Polamalu.....
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