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Old 08-07-2012, 12:00 AM   #46
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Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?

Isnt Shanahans favorite play calling apple pie? I thought apple pie was always the answer here
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:34 AM   #47
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Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?

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Good question. Usually they are on the local basic channels, not csn. I think, in the DC area they are usually on the GW or whatever (formally WB?).
I believe it's CSN, we've usually done our preseason games on there in the past.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:11 AM   #48
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Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?

@richtandler tweeted that it's on CSN yesterday.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:12 AM   #49
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I think it will be our new vanilla, which some in previous years might have been called butter pecan.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:39 AM   #50
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Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?

This sounds a little bit like butter pecan, but only because we were out of vanilla

Chris Cooley will play fullback in Redskins’ preseason opener | ProFootballTalk
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:34 AM   #51
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Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?

Good article on Griffin's progress:

Even RG3 subjected to a learning curve - Washington Times

Here is a speculative thought on my part, maybe wishful thinking as much as anything. The two reports I have been hearing are that Griffin is holding the ball too long, and that the Skins are running a lot of designed run plays. Both of which don't thrill me. But, they also say Griffin is purposely holding on so he can go through his progressions.

Now for my masterful observation:

Since they don't want Griffin running during a pass play, they are giving him extra designed runs to help him get the feel of scrambling against NFL defenders.

BRILLIANT!
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:43 AM   #52
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Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?

Bruce Allen was on moving the chains last night, when asked about all the designed runs and stuff he basically said they are experimenting with a lot of different things right now, he said that's what camp is for. Once the season starts that's when the experimenting ends.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:46 AM   #53
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Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?

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I'm so sick of the word "vanilla" being used for football.

This started under the Zorn era, at least here on the WP and in the media.

It's getting as bad as the word "gravitas" in political discussions.
I think Zorn's vanilla looked like more of a steamy brown pile of sh$%^&*(t.
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Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?

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Good article on Griffin's progress:

Even RG3 subjected to a learning curve - Washington Times

Here is a speculative thought on my part, maybe wishful thinking as much as anything. The two reports I have been hearing are that Griffin is holding the ball too long, and that the Skins are running a lot of designed run plays. Both of which don't thrill me. But, they also say Griffin is purposely holding on so he can go through his progressions.

Now for my masterful observation:

Since they don't want Griffin running during a pass play, they are giving him extra designed runs to help him get the feel of scrambling against NFL defenders.

BRILLIANT!
Yeah, mentioned that here

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post928668 (We've got big trouble on the OL.)

And I talked to someone who spoke with RG3 yesterday and RG3 said that's exactly what he's been told to do
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Redskins training camp: Coaches emphasizing game situations for Griffin - The Insider - The Washington Post
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I believe it's CSN, we've usually done our preseason games on there in the past.
I don't live in the DC area, so I will be forced to catch the NFL Network replay of the Skins/Bills which comes on at 3pm central on Friday afternoon.

I do know that the NFL Network is doing some "live look-ins" on Thursday night, so maybe I'll be able to catch some live RG3 before Friday afternoon.

I'll be leaving work early this Friday for the replay, that is for sure.
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:28 PM   #57
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Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?

Personally, I would err towards not showing any of the new stuff that involves Griffin running.
(a) The surprise factor would be diminishesd and (b) right now the OL is kinda a mixed bad right now and some of the zone-read stuff is dependent upon good protection; don't want to see Griff take any unnecessary hits.

But still use the RB elements of the new concepts.
For example they could calls some designed RB runs from the pistol and shotgun.
The still have to rep the concepts against a live defense.

Passing game/offense:

o I want to see Griff execute the offense from under center.
looking to see good clean footwork with the ball out on time to the correct receiver
I would like to see a couple of 5 step drop passes on rhythm and hit a couple/few of the litmus test arm strength throws: skinny post/bang 8, deep dig, deep comeback
Basically I want to see him Griff grip it and rip with confidence and velocity

I want to see the offense move at a good tempo and have a clean game (penalities, delay of game, uneccesary time outs etc.)
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:14 PM   #58
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Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?

Arguing with this dude on twitter ( he might be here) saying RG3 should be playing during pre-season. I'm like what the f*ck!? He reasoning is if he's only going to play a half, he shouldn't be playing at all.

Anyway of you buy that? I don't
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Airing on CBS here in Newport news, got it DvRd
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Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?

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Arguing with this dude on twitter ( he might be here) saying RG3 should be playing during pre-season. I'm like what the f*ck!? He reasoning is if he's only going to play a half, he shouldn't be playing at all.

Anyway of you buy that? I don't
I'm assuming you meant should not be playing during pre-season? He's a rookie and he needs the experience. I don't care how good he is going to be, if he can't play in preseason, he's not going to be ready for regular season. I can see not playing RGIII in preseason, years down the road after he has won a couple Super Bowls and maybe resting his body, but he's got just as much to prove (if not more) as the rest of the rookie class.
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