Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?

hooskins · 08-06-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Does anyone know if the game will be televised locally on comcast sports net?

Good question. Usually they are on the local basic channels, not csn. I think, in the DC area they are usually on the GW or whatever (formally WB?).

SKINSnCANES · 08-07-2012, 12:00 AM

Isnt Shanahans favorite play calling apple pie? I thought apple pie was always the answer here

mooby · 08-07-2012, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Good question. Usually they are on the local basic channels, not csn. I think, in the DC area they are usually on the GW or whatever (formally WB?).

I believe it's CSN, we've usually done our preseason games on there in the past.

Monksdown · 08-07-2012, 07:11 AM

@richtandler tweeted that it's on CSN yesterday.

Monksdown · 08-07-2012, 07:12 AM

I think it will be our new vanilla, which some in previous years might have been called butter pecan.

mlmpetert · 08-07-2012, 07:39 AM

This sounds a little bit like butter pecan, but only because we were out of vanilla

Chris Cooley will play fullback in Redskins’ preseason opener | ProFootballTalk

CRedskinsRule · 08-07-2012, 08:34 AM

Good article on Griffin's progress:

Even RG3 subjected to a learning curve - Washington Times

Here is a speculative thought on my part, maybe wishful thinking as much as anything. The two reports I have been hearing are that Griffin is holding the ball too long, and that the Skins are running a lot of designed run plays. Both of which don't thrill me. But, they also say Griffin is purposely holding on so he can go through his progressions.

Now for my masterful observation:

Since they don't want Griffin running during a pass play, they are giving him extra designed runs to help him get the feel of scrambling against NFL defenders.

BRILLIANT!

Mattyk · 08-07-2012, 08:43 AM

Bruce Allen was on moving the chains last night, when asked about all the designed runs and stuff he basically said they are experimenting with a lot of different things right now, he said that's what camp is for. Once the season starts that's when the experimenting ends.

CrustyRedskin · 08-07-2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkeydad

I'm so sick of the word "vanilla" being used for football.

This started under the Zorn era, at least here on the WP and in the media.

It's getting as bad as the word "gravitas" in political discussions.

I think Zorn's vanilla looked like more of a steamy brown pile of sh$%^&*(t.

SmootSmack · 08-07-2012, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Good article on Griffin's progress:

Even RG3 subjected to a learning curve - Washington Times

Here is a speculative thought on my part, maybe wishful thinking as much as anything. The two reports I have been hearing are that Griffin is holding the ball too long, and that the Skins are running a lot of designed run plays. Both of which don't thrill me. But, they also say Griffin is purposely holding on so he can go through his progressions.

Now for my masterful observation:

Since they don't want Griffin running during a pass play, they are giving him extra designed runs to help him get the feel of scrambling against NFL defenders.

BRILLIANT!

Yeah, mentioned that here

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post928668 (We've got big trouble on the OL.)

And I talked to someone who spoke with RG3 yesterday and RG3 said that's exactly what he's been told to do

Mattyk · 08-07-2012, 09:20 AM

Redskins training camp: Coaches emphasizing game situations for Griffin - The Insider - The Washington Post

scowan · 08-07-2012, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooby

I believe it's CSN, we've usually done our preseason games on there in the past.

I don't live in the DC area, so I will be forced to catch the NFL Network replay of the Skins/Bills which comes on at 3pm central on Friday afternoon.

I do know that the NFL Network is doing some "live look-ins" on Thursday night, so maybe I'll be able to catch some live RG3 before Friday afternoon.

I'll be leaving work early this Friday for the replay, that is for sure.

30gut · 08-07-2012, 12:28 PM

Personally, I would err towards not showing any of the new stuff that involves Griffin running.
(a) The surprise factor would be diminishesd and (b) right now the OL is kinda a mixed bad right now and some of the zone-read stuff is dependent upon good protection; don't want to see Griff take any unnecessary hits.

But still use the RB elements of the new concepts.
For example they could calls some designed RB runs from the pistol and shotgun.
The still have to rep the concepts against a live defense.

Passing game/offense:

o I want to see Griff execute the offense from under center.
looking to see good clean footwork with the ball out on time to the correct receiver
I would like to see a couple of 5 step drop passes on rhythm and hit a couple/few of the litmus test arm strength throws: skinny post/bang 8, deep dig, deep comeback
Basically I want to see him Griff grip it and rip with confidence and velocity

I want to see the offense move at a good tempo and have a clean game (penalities, delay of game, uneccesary time outs etc.)

CultBrennan59 · 08-07-2012, 12:30 PM

I'm excited for our game against the bills, because we get to see Trent Williams on Mario Williams and Mark Andersons speed rush around the edge burning all our RT's. It'll be a great test for RG3 and to see how well he is at an nfl game of escaping from the pocket/getting away from the the pass rushers.

RGIII · 08-07-2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm excited for our game against the bills, because we get to see Trent Williams on Mario Williams and Mark Andersons speed rush around the edge burning all our RT's. It'll be a great test for RG3 and to see how well he is at an nfl game of escaping from the pocket/getting away from the the pass rushers.

It will be a true test for the OL for sure; getting everyone up to speed.

08-07-2012, 12:00 AM	#47
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08-07-2012, 07:11 AM	#49
Monksdown Robert Griffin III Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 32 Posts: 1,495	Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan? @richtandler tweeted that it's on CSN yesterday. __________________ Robert Griffin III

08-07-2012, 07:12 AM	#50
Monksdown Robert Griffin III Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 32 Posts: 1,495	Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan? I think it will be our new vanilla, which some in previous years might have been called butter pecan. __________________ Robert Griffin III Last edited by Monksdown; 08-07-2012 at 07:54 AM.

08-07-2012, 07:39 AM	#51
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,207	Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan? This sounds a little bit like butter pecan, but only because we were out of vanilla Chris Cooley will play fullback in Redskins’ preseason opener \| ProFootballTalk __________________ https://constitutionminute.hillsdale.edu/episode1

08-07-2012, 08:34 AM	#52
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,901	Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan? Good article on Griffin's progress: Even RG3 subjected to a learning curve - Washington Times Here is a speculative thought on my part, maybe wishful thinking as much as anything. The two reports I have been hearing are that Griffin is holding the ball too long, and that the Skins are running a lot of designed run plays. Both of which don't thrill me. But, they also say Griffin is purposely holding on so he can go through his progressions. Now for my masterful observation: Since they don't want Griffin running during a pass play, they are giving him extra designed runs to help him get the feel of scrambling against NFL defenders. BRILLIANT!

08-07-2012, 08:43 AM	#53
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,652	Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan? Bruce Allen was on moving the chains last night, when asked about all the designed runs and stuff he basically said they are experimenting with a lot of different things right now, he said that's what camp is for. Once the season starts that's when the experimenting ends. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop Last edited by Mattyk; 08-07-2012 at 08:52 AM.

08-07-2012, 09:20 AM	#56
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,652	Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan? Redskins training camp: Coaches emphasizing game situations for Griffin - The Insider - The Washington Post __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-07-2012, 12:28 PM	#58
30gut The Starter Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,075	Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan? Personally, I would err towards not showing any of the new stuff that involves Griffin running. (a) The surprise factor would be diminishesd and (b) right now the OL is kinda a mixed bad right now and some of the zone-read stuff is dependent upon good protection; don't want to see Griff take any unnecessary hits. But still use the RB elements of the new concepts. For example they could calls some designed RB runs from the pistol and shotgun. The still have to rep the concepts against a live defense. Passing game/offense: o I want to see Griff execute the offense from under center. looking to see good clean footwork with the ball out on time to the correct receiver I would like to see a couple of 5 step drop passes on rhythm and hit a couple/few of the litmus test arm strength throws: skinny post/bang 8, deep dig, deep comeback Basically I want to see him Griff grip it and rip with confidence and velocity I want to see the offense move at a good tempo and have a clean game (penalities, delay of game, uneccesary time outs etc.) __________________ No longer were NFL coaches dealing inflexibly with spread [QBs] in ways that caused stunted development for players like [A. Smith and Vick] now, the idea is to bring what the quarterback can do, and what he should do, together as an organic whole

08-07-2012, 12:30 PM	#59
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,568	Re: Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan? I'm excited for our game against the bills, because we get to see Trent Williams on Mario Williams and Mark Andersons speed rush around the edge burning all our RT's. It'll be a great test for RG3 and to see how well he is at an nfl game of escaping from the pocket/getting away from the the pass rushers. __________________ When in doubt, go with the SEC

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