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Old 09-20-2012, 03:56 PM   #151
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I'd bet it's only going to get worse as the players keep pushing the envelope.
I don't think so. I'll bet there has been a memo sent out to the teams that any more nonsense and ejections/fines will be coming down. The NFL has I'm sure told the refs to start throwing people out that even seem like they're pushing the envelope.
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:21 AM   #152
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Really NFL? Really? Maybe you should be contacting the refs telling them to control the game instead of letting it become a thugfest.
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NFL issues on-field conduct warning to owners, general managers, coaches of all 32 teams - ESPN


Really NFL? Really? Maybe you should be contacting the refs telling them to control the game instead of letting it become a thugfest.
I have to believe that they are sending that out to the replacement refs too. The game yesterday went smoothly, and after 1 pushing match, which I expected to spark many more, the teams seemed to settle down. I don't know if the league guy who's helping the refs went to both teams and said something or if the players just chilled, but I tend to think that somehow the refs got the point across that they weren't going to accept thuggery.

I hope so atleast.
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Re: Replacement refs: The story the NFL wants to keep quiet

These greedy ass owners and the greatly hypocritical Goondell administration is to blame folks. Just take a look at the numbers and what the Refs are asking for...its absolutely redunkelous.
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Well the real refs are asking for a full pension plan - as a part time employees! who else in the US has that now. Take a 401K, enjoy the extra money in your pocket and get back on the field.

That said, seems like they could put in a grandfather clause that allows current refs with more than x years to keep the full pension, then phase it out as new refs are hired. Crazy the two sides can't agree on something.
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Well the real refs are asking for a full pension plan - as a part time employees! who else in the US has that now. Take a 401K, enjoy the extra money in your pocket and get back on the field.

That said, seems like they could put in a grandfather clause that allows current refs with more than x years to keep the full pension, then phase it out as new refs are hired. Crazy the two sides can't agree on something.
You mean the same pension plan they've gotten from the league since the 70s?

Bingo!!!!, 9 billion industry a year. It should be a going forward action with new hires, you cant switch it up now.
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You mean the same pension plan they've gotten from the league since the 70s?

Bingo!!!!, 9 billion industry a year. It should be a going forward action with new hires, you cant switch it up now.
I never understand bringing up gross amounts in the discussion. It may be a 9billion dollar a year industry, but every part gets its share:
players get half of that +/-
coaches get some
FO staff and general employees get some
owners get some
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refs get some.

The basic percentages are already laid out, clearly the NFL is trying to force the refs out of an outdated paradigm, again who else in the US is getting a fully funded pension as a part time employee?

Having said this, I just prefer that reffing in the games gets under control, regardless of which refs are actually running the games.
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I never understand bringing up gross amounts in the discussion. It may be a 9billion dollar a year industry, but every part gets its share:
players get half of that +/-
coaches get some
FO staff and general employees get some
owners get some
and
refs get some.

The basic percentages are already laid out, clearly the NFL is trying to force the refs out of an outdated paradigm, again who else in the US is getting a fully funded pension as a part time employee?

Having said this, I just prefer that reffing in the games gets under control, regardless of which refs are actually running the games.

Perspective and context. Wonder what NFL writes checks to each year...hard to find those numbers, that would provide even more context. Also its speaks to the risk the NFL would put on its product. What it worth to them. They would risk impact on games, playoffs, and player injury. The latter is really interesting. both sides of the mouf from Goondell and the owners on that.
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Perspective and context. Wonder what NFL writes checks to each year...hard to find those numbers, that would provide even more context. Also its speaks to the risk the NFL would put on its product. What it worth to them. They would risk impact on games, playoffs, and player injury. The latter is really interesting. both sides of the mouf from Goondell and the owners on that.
I don't think those numbers are hard to find out. Packers have to disclose their numbers, the rest have been bandied about often times. As for the NFLRA, I believe every writer agrees that the NFL upped the straight cash numbers, the issue is how the pension is handled. Again seems like they could come to agreement somehow, but:
a) The refs all have other successful careers, so the NFL can't force it like they could with players

b) The refs are stuck on forcing the pension issue

c) the NFL isn't going to suffer financially regardless of how long this drags on

d) the NFL won't keep the same pension as in the past.

Ultimately there is just no leverage on either side to get this agreement done, and it's not a simple case of bad greedy owners, any more than it is evil money grubbing refs.

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Re: Replacement refs: The story the NFL wants to keep quiet

The two sides got together on Monday and Tuesday, but I guess nothing became of those talks?
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Re: Replacement refs: The story the NFL wants to keep quiet

From Bill Simmons' mailbag today. It was sad and funny at the same time (about replacement refs):

Q: Can you create a "Bad Officiating Crew League" next year? I call dibs on the Falcons-Broncos crew … wait, I want the guys who did the Rams-Skins game. No wait, I want the Ravens-Eagles crew. Actually, just flip a coin for me.
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SG: We briefly tried to figure out the BOCL before realizing it would be too hard to keep track. To do the league right, you'd need categories like "Number of times the home team's fans chanted that you sucked," "Number of flags you meekly picked up while pretending that it never happened," "Number of times the announcers knew the rules but you didn't," "Number of near-melees that threatened to become the biggest brawl in NFL history" and "Longest and most interminable delay between the thrown flag and the resolution of that flag." Either way, I'd pick the Rams-Redskins crew first in any BOCL draft — they looked the other way as the Rams were doing everything short of hitting Robert Griffin III with two-by-fours.
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That sir is awesome...lol



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I think you have that backwards. The longer it goes the better they will get and more of a chance for the NFL to tell the real ref's to go pound sand. I thought they did a pretty good job. A few non calls but I actually like the fact they let them play a little more not calling everthing they see. The one holding call they missed was the worse thing they did and even the announcers said that's an easy call to miss.
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yes, last night wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, but that doesn't excuse it being absolutely putrid. I make a projection that after these scabs ruin a couple games through week 2, week 3 we will see Hoculi and his cohorts back on the field not calling holding penalties for Orakpo. Mark it down, these replacements wont get any better, they will only get worse as time goes on, and the outcry for the real refs to return will soon be a huge talking point in every medium of sports media.

The refs are getting worse. Now they are nervous, cause everyone is taling about them, looking at how bad they are calling these games. I have a feeling we will see alot of calls that shouldn't be called overreacted to moving forward, in a futile attempt to have some measure of control on the field. All they are going to do is piss players, coaches fans, and ultimately the NFL off. The real refs will eventually get their deal.
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