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Old 08-20-2012, 08:35 AM   #166
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Need to Know: Why isn't RG3 passing more? - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

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In two games, Griffin is a combined 10 for 14 passing. Last night alone, Andrew Luck attempted 25 passes last night against the Steelers and has 41 attempts in two games. Kirk Cousins has thrown 45 passes in two games, more than triple the starter’s pass attempts.

When you look at the pass-run play call ratio in the 39 snaps that Griffin has played (exclusing the one kneel down at the end of the half in Chicago), has been just about even. In addition to the 14 pass attempts, Griffin has been sacked three times and scrambled after dropping back twice or a total of 19 pass plays. That’s about a 51-49 run-pass, the balance you want when you are getting a young quarterback’s feet under him.

Also, Griffin and the Redskins offense could help themselves by sustaining some drives. Luck and the Colts ran 41 offensive plays in the first half last night because they had 13 first downs. Cousins and the Redkins racked up 18 first downs and ran 39 plays in the second half on Saturday.

Not to worry, Redskins fans. At some point RG3 will get some drives going and people can get back to their old habits of complaining that Kyle Shanahan is too pass happy in his play calling.
I like the little jab at the end lol
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:44 AM   #167
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I felt the only bad thing RGIII really did was try for extra yards on that scramble in the first quarter. Other than that, I felt he made some good decisions. He continues to go through his read progressions, and to buy time with his legs to extend plays. He's not just tucking the ball under and hitting the road.

As far as holding onto the ball too long? Well, actually watch the game before making that assumption. The offensive line was not protecting RGIII at all in that first quarter - Lance Briggs was having a field day out there. I felt considering the pressure Griffin had on him, he made some really good decisions. This will go a long ways for Griff...because I have a feeling this might be another year where the offensive line makes changes (due to injury) throughout the year.
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RG3 had a few misses. The pass to Paul was on him. He threw behind someone on a slant... and the fumble was on him too. The controversy thing is a little ridiculous at this point. Against Indy it would be good to see 25-30 passes.
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We really need to get Kory L and Chester back. Im not worried bout RG3, im twenty times more worried about the Oline
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RG3 had a few misses. The pass to Paul was on him. He threw behind someone on a slant... and the fumble was on him too. The controversy thing is a little ridiculous at this point. Against Indy it would be good to see 25-30 passes.
The pass to Paul was off-target, but not so much that Paul couldn't have caught the pass. Not every pass is going to be dead perfect, so I put some blame on Paul on that one as well.

The fumble, I understand what happened and after looking at the replay of it, the defensive guy (was it Lance Briggs?) made a great play. Griff probably should have just tucked the ball in and scrambled, but it wasn't like he just dropped the ball - he was in the process of passing it.

The controversy thing was just a little joke that Chick Hernandez came up with...but I'm sure somebody will take it and run away with it.

I think RGIII will have a better game against Indy. He'll have at least two and half to three quarters to play, so I see him improving.
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We really need to get Kory L and Chester back. Im not worried bout RG3, im twenty times more worried about the Oline
Agreed! That is the biggest concern, because the first team OL was getting pushed around a lot in that first quarter.
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Agreed! That is the biggest concern, because the first team OL was getting pushed around a lot in that first quarter.
I hope the starters get a bit of playing time and that things will get better when all the starters play together.

After the Bears game, I really was wondering if the Bills d-line was playing very vanilla or if they are not as good as the Bears. Granted, the Bills game was the first game, but still...Peppers was unstoppable and the rest of the Bears d-line just seem to dominate our o-line.
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Some fans/media really bend over backwards to explain away even the most innocuous observations.

Of course if they extended some drives etc Griffin would have more pass attempts.
But, lets be truthful its preseason not an actual game no one is worried about scheme and pass-run ratio.
The Bills only ran the ball once in the 2st half because obviously they were working on different passing concepts.
That's what pre-season is for to work on stuff.

Tandler's post avoids the most obvious facts: the surest way to get Griffin more pass attempts?
Play him more snaps and in those snaps call more passes.
Like the Dolphins are doing with Tannehill, like the Colts are doing with Luck etc.

The jab at the end can't really be a jab because its a correct observation by the fans.
If your QB is Rex Grossman(turnover machine)/John Beck and the WRs corps lacks talent in the eyes of the coaches (hence Garcon,Morgan out Gaffney) how is a 60-40 pass-run ratio the same ratio of elite passing offenses justified?

I hate it when sports media pisses on my leg then tells me its raining.
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Positives:

Cousins
Aldrick Robinson
2nd String OL
Kehl
Crawford
How about some love for Brandon Banks?

Negatives:

1st string OL (only 2 regular starters)
Cedric Griffin (cut him now) I second that emotion!
RGIII (the OL didn't really help him)
D.Hall (Big mouth, cheapshot who can't tackle)
Not only can't D.Hall tackle, but he won't do it! I'll never forget nor forgive his disgraceful avoidance of Rob Gronkowski. What the hell, cut him too. I wouldn't miss him, no matter what.
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:08 AM   #175
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The pass to Paul was off-target, but not so much that Paul couldn't have caught the pass. Not every pass is going to be dead perfect, so I put some blame on Paul on that one as well.
That pass was clearly on RGIII.
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I hope the starters get a bit of playing time and that things will get better when all the starters play together.
I agree.
But, it would be nice for Griffin to have some rhythm going into this game.
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Bold predictions for NFL season - Yahoo! Sports

Just thought this was interesting since this guy says RGIII could be better than Manning.
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Some fans/media really bend over backwards to explain away even the most innocuous observations.

Of course if they extended some drives etc Griffin would have more pass attempts.
But, lets be truthful its preseason not an actual game no one is worried about scheme and pass-run ratio.
The Bills only ran the ball once in the 2st half because obviously they were working on different passing concepts.
That's what pre-season is for to work on stuff.

Tandler's post avoids the most obvious facts: the surest way to get Griffin more pass attempts?
Play him more snaps and in those snaps call more passes.
Like the Dolphins are doing with Tannehill, like the Colts are doing with Luck etc.

The jab at the end can't really be a jab because its a correct observation by the fans.
If your QB is Rex Grossman(turnover machine)/John Beck and the WRs corps lacks talent in the eyes of the coaches (hence Garcon,Morgan out Gaffney) how is a 60-40 pass-run ratio the same ratio of elite passing offenses justified?

I hate it when sports media pisses on my leg then tells me its raining.
I think it's worth pointing out that there's a little more to the story than it seems. You know, a little perspective to the constant sky is falling mantra from the fans.
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I think it's worth pointing out that there's a little more to the story than it seems. You know, a little perspective to the constant sky is falling mantra from the fans.
Why does it seem that every observation that is critical or questioning but true is seemingly always meet with: chicken little or sky is falling?

Maybe, just maybe some fans are making actual objective football observations and seek a discussion of them?

Fan:Griffin only has 14 attempts other QBs have more
Response:Oh man, why are you saying the sky is falling? Quit being a chicken little.

^^Rinse, wash, repeat.

Maybe Griffin is so lights out in the closed practice sessions that the feel he doesn't need any more passing attempts then he's received?

Who knows?
But its a fact worth discussing and not dismissing.
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I think it's worth pointing out that there's a little more to the story than it seems. You know, a little perspective to the constant sky is falling mantra from the fans.
Also to note though exciting to see Banks run one back he snuffed out a chance for RGIII to a) have more attempts and b) run the two minute drill. In theory I guess they could have started RGIII at the start of the 3rd but what is the point his night was over. Saturday is his big test against a weak defense and at home; he should be able to shine.
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