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Old 08-20-2012, 10:50 AM   #181
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Bold predictions for NFL season - Yahoo! Sports

Just thought this was interesting since this guy says RGIII could be better than Manning.
Why do some sites insist on doing videos?

Written text > Video's
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:59 AM   #182
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Why do some sites insist on doing videos?

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I know, I don't even bother. Especially when I have to watch a commercial first.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:01 AM   #183
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Why does it seem that every observation that is critical or questioning but true is seemingly always meet with: chicken little or sky is falling?

Maybe, just maybe some fans are making actual objective football observations and seek a discussion of them?

Fan:Griffin only has 14 attempts other QBs have more
Response:Oh man, why are you saying the sky is falling? Quit being a chicken little.

^^Rinse, wash, repeat.

Maybe Griffin is so lights out in the closed practice sessions that the feel he doesn't need any more passing attempts then he's received?

Who knows?
But its a fact worth discussing and not dismissing.
Isn't part of the discussion, bringing up some possible explanations as Tandler did? Isn't that what we're doing? You're the one that seems to be dismissive.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:29 AM   #184
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Isn't part of the discussion, bringing up some possible explanations as Tandler did? Isn't that what we're doing? You're the one that seems to be dismissive.
I don't intend to be dismissive, actually don't even see how I'm being dismissive.

but if this isn't dismissive then maybe I don't understand the word:
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Not to worry, Redskins fans (1). At some point RG3 will get some drives going(2) and people can get back to their old habits of complaining that Kyle Shanahan is too pass happy in his play calling.(3)
(1)Who is worrying?
(2) Duh? Tandler's explanation is patently obvious, which is dismissive in and of itself.
Of course if the first team offense could move the ball there would be more passing attempts.
(3) And yes based on the personnel Kyle was too pass happy with his playcalling.
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I don't intend to be dismissive, actually don't even see how I'm being dismissive.

but if this isn't dismissive then maybe I don't understand the word:

(1)Who is worrying?
(2) Duh? Tandler's explanation is patently obvious, which is dismissive in and of itself.
Of course if the first team offense could move the ball there would be more passing attempts.
(3) And yes based on the personnel Kyle was too pass happy with his playcalling.
I didn't offer up Tandler's explanation as the end all be all to the question of why RG3 doesn't have a lot of attempts, just threw it out there as part of the discussion. You seemed to be saying it wasn't even worth talking about.
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:52 AM   #186
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...You seemed to be saying it wasn't even worth talking about.
Not my intention at all, I just strongly disagree with his explanation.
And after this I'll leave it; don't mean to side track the thread for which I apologize.

But directly to Tandler's statement about pass-run ratio here is Joe Philbin (who like I mentioned takes an approach that most teams take in regards to getting there QB especially non-veteran QB ready):

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We’re still working through that Joe (Rose). Part of the reason that our run-pass ratio is a little out of whack is, if you look at the team and you look at the running back pool, we feel like we’ve got some guys that, a) we’ve got some established players who have had some success in this league, we also feel like we have some young players that have a chance to be very good there. Now we’re in a position at receiver where we don’t have as much information on those guys, we don’t have as much quarterback information, so we’re throwing the ball more than we anticipate throwing in a quote unquote “normal game”.
Read more here: Joe Philbin discusses Carolina loss, upcoming week | Miami Dolphins In Depth
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Old 08-20-2012, 11:56 AM   #187
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I missed the game but it seems the O had an off night. Well I think in preseason an off night actually helps the team learn from the mistakes they made and can work on them.
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I missed the game but it seems the O had an off night.
Everybody on the first team offense and defense had a off night. Defense was just a crappy.
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Why havent we cut Cedric Griffin yet?
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:36 PM   #190
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Eh, I thought last year's team could have finished 9-7. I think this team is better and should be 8-8 or 9-7.
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:46 PM   #191
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Our defense has major holes in the defensive backfield and that Jim Haslett is a POS coordinator. If I could fire him right now I really would.
Sometimes we feel the same way about your posts.


Back to the game that we should have won...that was the ugliest 57-yard FG ever but I give Gould credit. I don't think I've seen a line drive FG made from that far. I wish one of our two kickers had that leg.

The RT position is really showing itself to be a problem. Polumbus got abused by Israel Idonje. I'm not worried about Griffin's fumble, he slipped on the field and it was very close to being an incomplete pass because his arm was a split second away from going forward.

Banks...doing it again. Another preseason TD that might convince coaches to keep him. One more good return game and I think he'll make it, even though I've been saying all along he wouldn't.

Bears D looked VERY good. I was impressed. I also think Cutler to Marshall is going to be very dangerous this season...they could be pushing Green Bay for the division.
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:45 PM   #192
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Here are my game notes:


-Cedric Griffin beat deep by Marshall playing Cover 1 or 3 w/ D.Hall playing FS
- " beat inside on skinny post/slant in the RZ by everyone loves a Jeffery

- Morris nice vision, cutback, and running through contact early +++

- Gettis beat in pass pro on Griff 1st drop back -1
- 2nd series Monty pushed back -1

- 3rd series FUMBLE!
Morris should have checked his blitz pick-up block before going out on his route -1
Davis matched up 1 v 1 w/ Idoneje (sp?) and lost -1
Cooley probably should have at least chipped if not doubled down on Idoneje -1
Griff probably could have audibled the protection to account for #21 blitz from the (L) edge -.5
He's gotta hold on to the ball -1

-Riley juked in the hole by Bush for TD

Last play 1st qtr SACK
- Can Davis get some love? 1 on 1 Peppers holds his own +1
- Gettis & Polumbus beat in pass pro -1,-1, sack

o Where is Madieu? later...
Several solid tackles, a couple 'must' tackles to prevent huge play/TD (when Wilson -1 got beat by Benntt) ++

2nd QTR

- Monty pushed backed again-1
4:50 Gettis stood up -1

BANKS!

Cousins Got into a rhythm, had good pass protection, had open targets, showed good velocity and ball location

2nd Unit
1st serries
OL surges for Tristan Davis w/ nice cutback +1
Paulen +1 nice block no help

2nd series
-LeRib -1 missed 2nd level block on LB
Cook pushed back -1
Compton +1 nice block on the edge

PA Robinson +1 toasts DB in about 5 strides (impressive) ball underthrown -1

Niles comes off double team too early -1, Compton blocks no one -1
Paulsen blocks DE with no help +1
LeRib bull rushed and pushed back by DT -1

- Gettis doesn't get to 2nd level LB -1
Compton beat by McCellan -1
Smith +1
Gettis -1 on ground doesn't make block
Moll -1 missed 2nd level block
Cook good double +1 missed 2nd level block -.5

Tristan Davis needs to stop dancing and get north-south -1

Crawford nice change of direction to drive on pass and break it up/almost pick +1

Bailey 1st run
LeRib good speed to pull around the edge and lead way to reach 2nd level backers +1

Robinson +++ good route, good adjustment to catch a high pass, good RAC for TD!

9:05
Gomes -1 whiff, *noticed tendency to dive tackling instead of pop and wrap

Crawdog +1 blitz pressure

Nile Paul vs #76 1 on 1 no help, nice block +1

Doughty +1 forced fumble

Briscoe ++ strong route to get inside and use body to shield DB, nice RAC

Crawford +1 blitz pressure +1
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:46 PM   #193
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Re: Redskins at Bears Post Game Thoughts

The first team offense hasn't looked sharp coming out of the gate and gameplan or no gameplan the execution should be much better.
The offensive line has been inconsistent, and regardless of the injuries they must play better.
Griffin certainly hasn't had a lot of passing attempts (14) near league low.
Consequently I don't feel like Griffin has found a good rhythm in any of the preseason games thus far.
In the Bears game Griffin did not run a lot of our base offense, unless our base offense is going to be 3 TE 1 WR.

I don't want to see the 'new' wrinkles on the offense read option etc.
But, I do want to see our base offense executed at a much higher level.
I would like to see some offensive line step-up.
I want to see a scheme that accounts for the weaknesses up front that will allow adequate time for Griffin to work the offense and the runningbacks to have lanes.
I want to see Griffin get into a rhytm executing the base offense and give Fred Davis, Garcon, Hankerson and Moss multiple targets.

Then I want the first unit to sit the heck down and watch.
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:51 PM   #194
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Re: Redskins at Bears Post Game Thoughts

Lots of good insight and solid comments in this thread IMO. I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting a QB controversy either...it's sort of a straw man that homers and hard-line FO apologists create to delegitimize anyone who makes a critical comment.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:00 PM   #195
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The Bears have a hard nosed stout defense. I was under no illusion. I knew RG3 would have to fight it out against a defense like that. For his first time playing against such a great defense, I thought he did well. The passing game lacked with the starters but RG3 did have a decent pass completion percentage. He just needs to learn how to scan the field quickly to locate an open receiver and if there is no one open, he should just take off and outrun the entire defense to the end zone for 6.
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