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Old 08-28-2012, 07:39 PM   #136
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Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano

So how many years before Gano is in the pro bowl for a NFC team?
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:46 PM   #137
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2 things..

1. Cundiff is pretty much automatic from inside 50 yards, which Gano was not. Cundiff is an automatic touchback, Gano could boom them as well but also had the propensity to kick it out of bounds in a poor attempt at a directional kick. Cundiff was considered a top 10 kicker, Gano was bottom third. It's an upgrade.

2. The fact that we are bemoaning a kicker move and the fate of Graham Gano speaks volumes to how stable and sane this offseason has been. It's nice to go into a season with little to no drama for once.
NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Opponent Kickoff Touchback Percentage on TeamRankings.com

Not automatic as the poster suggest, actually about 43%of the time on touchbacks, but better then Gano.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:55 PM   #138
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Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano

Anybody remember Nick Novak? In San Diego hitting 79.4 % last season?

Ole Cundiff might not be our first week starter either..

Spin: Novak is kicking well, but unfortunately for him, Nate Kaeding is healthy and is also kicking well. It seems unlikely that the Bolts will elect to keep both kickers on the roster when the season begins, so Novak might be auditioning for another team at this point.
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Anybody remember Nick Novak? In San Diego hitting 79.4 % last season?

Ole Cundiff might not be our first week starter either..

Spin: Novak is kicking well, but unfortunately for him, Nate Kaeding is healthy and is also kicking well. It seems unlikely that the Bolts will elect to keep both kickers on the roster when the season begins, so Novak might be auditioning for another team at this point.
That would be hilarious.
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So how many years before Gano is in the pro bowl for a NFC team?
The over/under is 2.5 years. I've got the under.
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Re: Redskins Sign K Billy Cundiff, Release Gano

I'll take the over all day. Gano isn't going to go somewhere and be lights out.
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I'll take the over all day. Gano isn't going to go somewhere and be lights out.
Mr. Akers....Kid had one of the strongest legs in the league, if he could harness the power and become accurate look out...., just sayin
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CapitalD has Kirk over taken Rex?
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In an attempt to spare the denizens of reactionaries some time, I'll write the following for whenever Cundiff misses his first FG with the Skins:
CUT CUNDIFF!!!
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Not even QB?
I just feel like when a QB is good they stay good for a while. Rarely do you have one year wonders at QB and if they end up being one year wonders its usually due to injuries. Kick returners and Kickers seem to have more and more one or two year wonders.

Cundiff for example was a pro bowler in 2010 at a position that picks only two players out of 32 or more. Just last week he was released. Neil Rackers, couple of years ago it would have taken a 2nd round pick to convince the Cardinals to give him up, now he's hoping that someone will call him. Nick Folk, pro bowler for Dallas in 2007. In 2009 they "lost faith in Folk and waived him on December 21, 2009."

Kick returners to. Back in 2010 Brandon Banks was the next big thing. This year we're wondering if he'll make the roster. Dante Hall was the "X" factor for 2 years before he started to slowly become less and less of a game changer. Even Devin Hester who could probably still return kicks is getting relegated it seems to just playing receiver. He was replaced by kick return specialist Eric Weems who the Falcons liked but didn't fight tooth and nail to hold onto.

Also does anyone remember Chad Morton? Talk about a Redskin no one remembers.

I don't know it just seems to me that a lot of these specialist have very short life spans. Punters being the exception to the rule. If you find a good punter you are set for the next 10,000 years.
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akers and vinetari and stover stuck around forever. janikowski, anderson... some kickers are just good.
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akers and vinetari and stover stuck around forever. janikowski, anderson... some kickers are just good.
Well I mean there are a few guys that stick around and have long sucessful careers but what what I've seen kickers can fall from grace pretty quickly. Take Mike Vanderjagt for instance. He was one of the best kickers in the league. Misses one field goal in the postseason (on top of a drunk comment on TV) and gets released. Tries out for Dallas and gets replaced near the end of the season. Never heard from again in the NFL.

And I mean not only did he fall from grace but his last year in the league was simply brutal.

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Vanderjagt suffered a groin injury that kept him out of action for two weeks. He returned in the final preseason game against the Minnesota Vikings. In that game, he missed two field goals in overtime of 32 and 33 yards (both misses were wide right), forcing the game to end in a tie. Rumors quickly spread that Vanderjagt would be released by the Cowboys before the regular season began. However, he remained with the team. He was replaced by back-up kicker Shaun Suisham in the first game of the season against Jacksonville, but appeared in each of the Cowboys' subsequent games through Week 12. In Week 9, his potential game-winning field goal was blocked by the Washington Redskins as time expired. In Week 11 against his former team, the Colts, he missed his only two field goal attempts, (both of these misses were also wide right) making it the first time since 2001 since he had done so. The fans were so upset, they booed a commercial he appeared in on stadium monitors. On November 27, 2006, Vanderjagt was released by the Cowboys and replaced by Martín Gramática.
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But to reiterate yeah there are definitely a handful of quality kickers that stay on top for a good while. But for every Adam Vinitari it feels like there are 3 or 4 Neil Rackers.
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Never new a kicker thread would get to 11 pages
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So how many years before Gano is in the pro bowl for a NFC team?
Just like David Akers? Cundiff is not better than Gano, read this:

Redskins sign Cundiff, cut Gano | WashingtonExaminer.com
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Well I mean there are a few guys that stick around and have long sucessful careers but what what I've seen kickers can fall from grace pretty quickly. Take Mike Vanderjagt for instance. He was one of the best kickers in the league. Misses one field goal in the postseason (on top of a drunk comment on TV) and gets released. Tries out for Dallas and gets replaced near the end of the season. Never heard from again in the NFL.

And I mean not only did he fall from grace but his last year in the league was simply brutal.



But to reiterate yeah there are definitely a handful of quality kickers that stay on top for a good while. But for every Adam Vinitari it feels like there are 3 or 4 Neil Rackers.
Excellent post.

This is what scares me, we don't need a Tony Romo of a kicker. The consistency is good but the first time he misses a kick with the game on the line, we'll all be calling for his head.
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