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Old 09-04-2012, 02:06 PM   #91
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Lol, you mad huh?
Your perception of the events around Jason Campbell are skewed beyond belief.

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Last I'll say on the matter because no one else wants to read an off topic derail about Campbell: I know its hard for Campbell fans to admit they were wrong but He's a backup in a league where Kolb and Skelton are competing for a starting spot.

If that doesn't clue you I don't know what else to say...
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:08 PM   #92
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Last I'll say on the matter because no one else wants to read an off topic derail about Campbell: I know its hard for Campbell fans to admit they were wrong but He's a backup in a league where Kolb and Skelton are competing for a starting spot.

If that doesn't clue you I don't know what else to say...
That is really not a fair statement CHI has a better QB situation then AZ. I am fairly positive JC would start over Kolb and/or Skelton if he played on AZ.
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Campbell will never be more than a mediocre QB - whether as a starter or back-up. IMHO - Shanny saw that pretty quickly and hoped for better with McNabb. Unfortunately, McNabb turned out to be not even mediocre which set us back substantially. Shanallen should have recognized it but didn't. Regardless, we would still need a QB coming into this draft. Bottom line, whatever took us to getting a guy like RG3, I am incredibly happy where we have ended it up.

Past failed QB's are like former girlfriends you break it off with - you had some laughs, you learn some stuff, and maybe keep some pleasant memories, but, ultimately, when the right one comes along, you just don't care about them.

RGIII is here. I just don't care about those who went before.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:48 PM   #94
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Campbell will never be more than a mediocre QB - whether as a starter or back-up. IMHO - Shanny saw that pretty quickly and hoped for better with McNabb. Unfortunately, McNabb turned out to be not even mediocre which set us back substantially. Shanallen should have recognized it but didn't. Regardless, we would still need a QB coming into this draft. Bottom line, whatever took us to getting a guy like RG3, I am incredibly happy where we have ended it up.

Past failed QB's are like former girlfriends you break it off with - you had some laughs, you learn some stuff, and maybe keep some pleasant memories, but, ultimately, when the right one comes along, you just don't care about them.

RGIII is here. I just don't care about those who went before.


Well said.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:33 PM   #95
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Last I'll say on the matter because no one else wants to read an off topic derail about Campbell.
Then don't belly aching over him, lol
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Old 09-04-2012, 06:15 PM   #96
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So are we going to the regular season with one fullback?
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So are we going to the regular season with one fullback?
you bet your boots we are.

did we keep a backup for sellers?
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Old 09-04-2012, 06:57 PM   #98
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So are we going to the regular season with one fullback?

If I had to guess, I figure they will put Paul there occasionally.
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If I had to guess, I figure they will put Paul there occasionally.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:39 PM   #102
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:55 PM   #103
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I'm rejecting the "worst roster ever" argument because Shanahan thought he was inheriting a winning, though underachieving team when he took the job. He could have taken a lot of different jobs that weren't the Redskins, but ultimately, his best chance for a quick turnaround was in the wake of Zorn's blunder. Obviously, if he we were as far away as people are claiming we were, he would have at least interviewed for the Buffalo or Seattle jobs. There was simply more immediate upside here. That's why he took the job in the first place.

I also don't see how it matters that pretty much no one from the 2009 team is in the league today, because contrary to popular belief, Mike Shanahan was not looking for the roster that would put him in the best position to win in 2012. That obviously wouldn't have been the Redskins, but the pieces for the quick turnaround (Fletcher, Haynesworth, Landry, Rogers, Cooley, Portis, Moss) were in place, otherwise, why the heck go after McNabb? The idea that the Redskins were expected to return to the playoffs in 2010 is the only reasonable way to view this.

We all picked the Redskins to go to the playoffs in the McNabb year. John Clayton picked the Redskins to go to the playoffs then. I did as well. It's 100% hindsight to claim Shanahan inherited the worst roster ever. Too many knowledgable people thought Zorn's roster + Shanahan's coaching and player acquisition = playoffs. It wasn't the former part of the equation we all had wrong. It was the latter.

If we keep proper context, you can't explain the last two years as being a result of Vinny's ineptitude, because he's been gone too long (although it's obvious he was never helping things).
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:58 PM   #104
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He did interview with the Bills
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Interview or "interview" in the Bill Cowher sense?

I seem to remember that insiders knew Shanahan would be the coach here before Zorn was fired.
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