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Old 02-23-2005, 10:51 PM   #1
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Will Coles be back with the Redskins next year?

Alright poll time, we've been hounding on this topic since the story broke, what's your final answer, will Coles be back with the Skins next year?
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:02 PM   #2
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Re: Will Coles be back with the Redskins next year?

I'm saying yes. I don't think a release is going to workout before March 1 (unless the Jets or someone else move quickly). If I were the Skins I would offer to restructure his deal to make later years voidable based on incentives. I'm sure he would play hard anyway, but that would assure it.
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:05 PM   #3
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Re: Will Coles be back with the Redskins next year?

Yes. I cannot envision us trading him due to the cap ramifications. Even if he restructured his contract, I think the NFL management council might not approve the trade. I cannot envision us releasing him due to the cap ramifications and because we don't have an adequate replacement for him. Even if Coles were to waive the $5 million bonus payment (which I doubt he'd do and his agent has said as much), who would we get to fill in for him? We might not be able to get a great WR in the draft since Edwards, Williams or both will be gone by the 9th pick (especially now that the Vikes have traded Moss for the 7th pick).
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:06 PM   #4
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Coles would play hard for pride, to ensure he got a good deal the following year, and to ensure that he'll be wanted by the team(s) that he wants to go to.
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:12 PM   #5
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Re: Will Coles be back with the Redskins next year?

I went with yes simply because I can't see us finding a deal that works for both parties.
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:14 PM   #6
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Re: Will Coles be back with the Redskins next year?

As much fun I am having relieving some stress while stressing myself out contemplating the offseason whith you guys, I have just come to a realization. Earlier last season I recall one of our coaches saying something like- if all of our players don't believe that they can be potential starters, then we signed the wrong 53 people. I also had a conversation with my 1SG this morning (who also likes the redskins), and he said "I trust coach Gibbs to keep the people that he want's to keep there and he will weed the rest out." So if Gibb's want's to keep Coles there he will, and if he doesn't then he will let him go.
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Old 02-24-2005, 12:33 AM   #7
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I voted no. This whole thing is so f-ed up right now, and I'm sure the FO is ready forget about it by getting rid of it.
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Old 02-24-2005, 12:39 AM   #8
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I voted no. There is no crystal ball, but I think that he will be successfully traded back to the NY Jets, plus a draft choice or a player like Chad Morton, who we don't need anymore but who could actually finally have a chance to play at running back some if Jordan leaves them. In return we will get John Abraham.

Coles will elect to get surgery, though he may wait until after the '05 season.
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Old 02-24-2005, 01:02 AM   #9
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Re: Will Coles be back with the Redskins next year?

Nope. He doesn't want to be here.
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Old 02-24-2005, 01:16 AM   #10
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Re: Will Coles be back with the Redskins next year?

Yes, they can't afford to let him go for the cap hit (he's not going to give any money back). What will be interesting is to see if he reports to training camp.
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Old 02-24-2005, 07:40 AM   #11
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Re: Will Coles be back with the Redskins next year?

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I went with yes simply because I can't see us finding a deal that works for both parties.
Simply well put!
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Old 02-24-2005, 09:07 AM   #12
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I voted no, but I won't be surprised if he's back at this point simply because if they are going to move him, it needs to happen very quickly.

That's not to say Snyder and co. aren't working the phones like crazy right now trying to get something done.

Wouldn't it be great to be a fly on the wall at Redskins Park right now? Talk about a great reality show!
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Old 02-24-2005, 09:38 AM   #13
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No. I can't see Gibbs keeping a player on this team that said he doesn't want to be here. The only way he is still on the team is if he changes his mind about returning the 5 million in exchange for his release. he has already said he won't give the 5 back in a trade, but as far as I know he will still give it back for his release. Not getting the 5 million in cap relief would force Gibbs to keep him, but otherwise he's gone.
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Old 02-24-2005, 10:40 AM   #14
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I voted no because him sticking around after all of this has been aired out, would have a terrible affect in the lockerroom. I'm sure some players knew he felt this way but now everyone does and with him being someone who was thought as a team leader, that type of negativity just can't be here. One bad game and maybe his attitude gets rubbed off onto another player or 2 and keeps spreading. We need to just cut the problem off at this early stage and if he wants out of here as badly as it seems, find a team he wants to go to not named the cowpies or iggles, get him to rework his contract, and get him the hell out of here. He has to realize the team has all the power in this situation and with the cap hit we'll take for getting rid of him and what was given up to get him, he should realize the team more than likely won't let him go if they can't get anything in return.

I'll agree it's "nice" of Coles to have kept this quiet until now, but I know I for one lost all respect for the guy trying to whine and bitch his way out of town after ONE bad season in which everyone around the league knew it'd be a learning year for Coach Gibbs and his offensive schemes.
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Old 02-24-2005, 10:46 AM   #15
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Re: Will Coles be back with the Redskins next year?

I vote no. I think Joe Gibbs told the players that if someone didn't want to be there, he would try to accomodate them. Coles is willing to give back the $5 million IF HE GETS RELEASED. He's not willing to give it back if he gets traded. I think if push comes to shove, Gibbs will take him up on the $5 million give-back and try to accomodate his move out of Redskin park.

Coles wants out, but he doesn't want to give up any cash. He knows that if he's a free agent, he can afford to give up the $5 million because he knows a big signing bonus would be coming his way in free agency. That wouldn't be the case with a trade.

Releasing him would suit Gibbs as long as it doesn't kill the cap, he wants to be true to his word and treat players with respect. If Gibbs kept Coles against his wishes, he would lose a lot of credibility in the locker room. The only way they wouldn't release him outright is if he refuses to give back the $5 million altogether.
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