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Old 09-17-2012, 06:36 PM   #46
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Speaking of which, did you see Justin Tryon get embarrasingly beaten for a TD again yesterday? Last week Miles Austin, this week Mike Williams...
Yeah, he is in there as a third stringer. Thats my point though is that one of our cast offs is starting for them and they still manage to win. Because unlike Haslett they are able to adjust and scheme with who they have and somehow make it work - it surely isnt because of the talent (Tryon?!?) I totally blame Haslett.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:37 PM   #47
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Conclusion: Three years isn't enough time or draft picks to address every area of the team. I conclude this because it's right there in black in white. Point out the starters they should have drafted and then pick who you subtract from the team to draft him.

They have had literally NO chance to use a high pick on a top DB without sacrificing an IMPACT player in other areas that were even less stocked with talent than the secondary was.



The previous administration left them with a big contract (Hall), two low character guys coming into their first free agency with talent but also with clear undeniable issues and zero depth.
Great post, I completely agree. Another thing to point out is that St Louis did their homework before this game. They knew that if they played a dropback passing game like Brees did last week their patchwork o-line would get destroyed by our pass rush, so they smartly based their offense around 3-step drops. Of course, the fact that we used a soft zone 10 yards off their receivers didn't help either, but basically, St Louis made our secondary look worse by gameplanning to nullify our defensive strengths and exploit our weaknesses.
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Not all picks are going to contribute right off the bat. We could just as easily have a 3rd round rookie RT or DB riding the pine too. A guy like LeRibeus is one injury away from being an important player.
Yeah I am somewhat being a monday morning GM - but even during the draft I was thinking corner, safety, or RT. LeRibeus wasnt really on anybodies board at that time I dont think. I will accept Alfred Morris as a makeup pick though...........
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:13 PM   #49
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Our secondary is our weakest link on the whole team at the moment, and it'll need to be addressed in the offseason, but as of now our front 7 could of covered our poor secondary play I thought IF Haslett played man up and put lots of pressure on teams, but the soft zone yesterday hoping for big INT's he had going yesterday is just going to make us look even worse every game here on out.
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it's one of the worst in the league, Hall is really the only decent player we have. Wilson always gets beat
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U guys hate on hall way too much. He's not champ Bailey but He's not a scrub either
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U guys hate on hall way too much. He's not champ Bailey but He's not a scrub either
Wilson is pretty good as well. C. Griff is the weak link here. Crawford might grow to be pretty reliable as well. It'll be interesting to see Meriweather in action when he comes back. Gomes has been holding down safety really well though.
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Wilson is pretty good as well. C. Griff is the weak link here. Crawford might grow to be pretty reliable as well. It'll be interesting to see Meriweather in action when he comes back. Gomes has been holding down safety really well though.
Wilson is OK yes but it seems like he's behind his guy more than hall IMO. But of course our whole secondary is really shaky
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Also speaking of secondary, I know I've always talked about Reed and how bad he is but yesterday he was the first player on the field warning up and one of the last one off.
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I will say this about Hall: look at his interview on Redskins.com -- he made no excuses, did not blame the refs for the outcome, or anything. He gave props to the Rams for playing hard and he basically said the team has to be better. No whining. No pouting. Just matter-of-fact responses.

And that is what I would want to see from our players (along with better defense on the field).

I expect a better and more polished effort next Sunday, even if the holes left by the Rams game are hard to fill.
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U guys hate on hall way too much. He's not champ Bailey but He's not a scrub either
Im not calling him a scrub. Just that your post about wislon always getting beat and hall bein good seemed almost sarcastic.
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Also speaking of secondary, I know I've always talked about Reed and how bad he is but yesterday he was the first player on the field warning up and one of the last one off.
Now can we talk about how bad he is again? Lol
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Wilson is OK yes but it seems like he's behind his guy more than hall IMO. But of course our whole secondary is really shaky
Okie, I respectfully disagree. I consider Josh Wilson to be a serious baller. Every corner gets beat sometimes but for the most part Wilson is rock solid IMO.

BTW, you jinxed us by going to the game. I hope you had a good time anyway.
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U guys hate on hall way too much. He's not champ Bailey but He's not a scrub either
The thing about Hall though is he's a classic Jekyl and Hyde. One series he'll be Darrell Revis the next he'll be Laron Landry (the cover guy). I think if theres one thing we all can agree on it's that he's not consistent.

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I will say this about Hall: look at his interview on Redskins.com -- he made no excuses, did not blame the refs for the outcome, or anything. He gave props to the Rams for playing hard and he basically said the team has to be better. No whining. No pouting. Just matter-of-fact responses.

And that is what I would want to see from our players (along with better defense on the field).

I expect a better and more polished effort next Sunday, even if the holes left by the Rams game are hard to fill.
That surprises me but it's a pleasant surprise. Seems like he's matured as a leader.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:28 PM   #60
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Re: How bad is our secondary?

I'm a pretty firm believer that an excellent pass rush can hide even the worst of secondaries, and I think what did us in yesterday was an excellent game plan on the 'Rams side combined with a lack of pass rush on our side. Their game plan was to get the ball out as quick as possible, and it seemed they were prepared for our zone coverages. Bradford never held the ball for long, and even when he did we didn't have a good enough pass rush to make it affect his throws. With Rak and Carriker now out for the season we really need to come up with an effective way to get a pass rush, whether it be unconventional blitzes or whatever, otherwise it will be a long season. If we can't get a rush on the other side of Kerrigan they will be able to double team him for the rest of the season and it will effectively neutralize our pass rush. It seems it's time for Has' to earn his money at d-coordinator, and I'm not terribly enthused given his lack of adjustments in the past.
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