Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season

Lotus · 09-17-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by calia

Let's not forget that Nield is also on IR (and folks thought we'd be seeing good stuff from him this year too), as are Minnifield and Bernstine. To have lost two defensive starters and three depth guys -- and only 5 quarters into the season -- is pretty rough. I know injuries happen (look at the Packers two years ago), but it isn't as though we had great depth to begin with.

The person I feel sorriest for is Fletcher. He has got to be thinking that he cannot have too many more chances at a ring with the Redskins, and without saying that we were headed that way this season (that would be overly optimistic), I think this likely ensures that we'd be incredibly lucky to get to the post-season.

Time for others to step up.

Speaking of which, did Cofield not play yesterday? He's not credited for a single tackle, sack, or anything else.

Cofield did play. But he didn't show up for the game.

CapitalDefense · 09-17-2012, 05:27 PM

With all the hoopla about Rak, Carriker is a huge hit to our run defense. Did anyone see our run defense yesterday? I love Rak but he is the 3rd best LB on this team IMO, its a loss and nobody you sign or replace him with will get you double digit sack numbers. Lorenzo could be an option or the rookie Kennan, Carter off the street as somebody already mentioned. You could move Kerrigan over to that side on obvious blitzing downs. We still have options but can't afford another LB injury the rest of the season. Losing Carriker was a bigger blow because nobody we have comes close to being a good run stopper like him. Jenkins has been a huge disappointment after all the intitial hoopla.

CapitalDefense · 09-17-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Cofield did play. But he didn't show up for the game.

Cofield is not a NT, when he signed here he said a DT's dream is to get the center one on one. Well he is all talk because he gets that more times then not and does nuttin.

CapitalDefense · 09-17-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CapitalDefense

Cofield is not a NT, when he signed here he said a DT's dream is to get the center one on one. Well he is all talk because he gets that more times then not and does nuttin.

Do not be surprised to see Cofield moved to Carrikers spot and Baker inserted into the starting lineup.

SouperMeister · 09-17-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by los panda

it's unfortunate but it's not like either of them were game-changers. orakpo is not demarcus ware, jenkins has the tools to account for carriker's absence.

we're not doomed, it's an opportunity for a antonio pierce or ryan clark to emerge

Best post I've seen on this. Orakpo is a nice player, but many Redskins fans make him out to be a superstar, which he isn't. Clay Matthews was drafted a round later than Rak, and he is far more impactful. Ryan Kerrigan is too, for that matter.

mbedner3420 · 09-17-2012, 05:44 PM

After these injuries and the recent loss, this is how I feel:

los panda · 09-17-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CapitalDefense

Do not be surprised to see Cofield moved to Carrikers spot and Baker inserted into the starting lineup.

cofield/baker/jenkins split time at nt, jenkins/bowen/golston/cofield at de?
i don't know if baker and golston are enough to adequately relieve those 3 starters. i'd like to see another tub brought in to spell cofield/baker at nt.

cofield/baker/unnamed tub - 3 bodies at nt
bowen/jenkins/golston - 3 bodies at de

let cofield play any spot in the rotation

Lotus · 09-17-2012, 05:49 PM

I like Cofield at DE. But more likely, Jenkins takes over Carriker's spot. Since Jenkins has been our 2nd team NT, Baker likely will be activated for the first time and used to relieve Cofield.

The Goat · 09-17-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

You seem to think if guys don't take every catch to the house they don't have speed.

Garçon has more than enough speed, he showed it last week and in Indy. Case closed as far as I'm concerned.

Robinson is also plenty fast. There was a play yesterday where he was wide open and took the lid off the D, as Tim Ryan said, and Griffin simply didn't see him.

For someone who seems so hung up on speed, I don't understand why you talk up slowsters like Plax or Gaffney.

Word...I didn't explain very well. I'm saying these guys don't have game-breaking speed like Fitz, Wallace etc to burn the defender(s). That's all. Neither do we have a big target type guy who can consistently bring in the jump ball. We've got a nice WR corp, but nothing elite in any facet of the things that make WRs elite e.g. size, speed, or the uncanny skill to consistently create space and create plays from nothing.

At least with Plax we have a big target who would undoubtedly help in the endzone, and would UNDOUBTEDLY help in the situations Kyle keeps putting RGIII into with WRs and defenders concentrated in pockets down-field. It drove me nuts yesterday, but that's a whole nuther topic and I need to rewatch the game to break it down.

Mattyk · 09-17-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Word...I didn't explain very well. I'm saying these guys don't have game-breaking speed like Fitz, Wallace etc to burn the defender(s). That's all. Neither do we have a big target type guy who can consistently bring in the jump ball. We've got a nice WR corp, but nothing elite in any facet of the things that make WRs elite e.g. size, speed, or the uncanny skill to consistently create space and create plays from nothing.

At least with Plax we have a big target who would undoubtedly help in the endzone, and would UNDOUBTEDLY help in the situations Kyle keeps putting RGIII into with WRs and defenders concentrated in pockets down-field. It drove me nuts yesterday, but that's a whole nuther topic and I need to rewatch the game to break it down.

No we don't have a burner like Wallace, not many teams do.

We're only 2 games in, I think we need to give things a little more time to play out. The WR spot isn't high on our needs. Getting Garcon back would really help. And someone like Robinson is still developing.

TheSmurfs22 · 09-17-2012, 06:01 PM

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mooby · 09-17-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

No we don't have a burner like Wallace, not many teams do.

We're only 2 games in, I think we need to give things a little more time to play out. The WR spot isn't high on our needs. Getting Garcon back would really help. And someone like Robinson is still developing.

What do you mean, why can't we just buy one from the NFL-burner-wideout-with-good-hands-tree? I thought they were a dime-a-dozen?

DynamiteRave · 09-17-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

What do you mean, why can't we just buy one from the NFL-burner-wideout-with-good-hands-tree? I thought they were a dime-a-dozen?

Marko Mitchell might still be working at TGI Fridays.

Bucket · 09-17-2012, 07:07 PM

I think people just talk on here to make it seem like they know what's going on lol.. Robison lacks speed? LOL. He drops one ball, and people cal for his head.. Hankerson almost dropped a WIDE OPEN ball.. Imagine if he did...

A. Robinson is our fastest WR. He's a huge burner.. He almost broke it on a hitch route against the Rams. I wish I could find the video where he caught that stopping route in the preseason and totally vanished to the end zone.

He's a late round pick for WR who is turning in solid performances when given the chance.

punch it in · 09-17-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by takethecake

This is really, really terrible. I pray Haslett can adjust for this

.........and here in lies the real problem.............

09-17-2012, 05:27 PM	#92
CapitalDefense Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 325	Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season With all the hoopla about Rak, Carriker is a huge hit to our run defense. Did anyone see our run defense yesterday? I love Rak but he is the 3rd best LB on this team IMO, its a loss and nobody you sign or replace him with will get you double digit sack numbers. Lorenzo could be an option or the rookie Kennan, Carter off the street as somebody already mentioned. You could move Kerrigan over to that side on obvious blitzing downs. We still have options but can't afford another LB injury the rest of the season. Losing Carriker was a bigger blow because nobody we have comes close to being a good run stopper like him. Jenkins has been a huge disappointment after all the intitial hoopla.

09-17-2012, 05:44 PM	#96
mbedner3420 The Starter Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,557	Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season After these injuries and the recent loss, this is how I feel:

09-17-2012, 05:49 PM	#98
Lotus Mann Up HOF! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 8,906	Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season I like Cofield at DE. But more likely, Jenkins takes over Carriker's spot. Since Jenkins has been our 2nd team NT, Baker likely will be activated for the first time and used to relieve Cofield. __________________ Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

09-17-2012, 06:01 PM	#101
TheSmurfs22 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Staunton, VA Posts: 957	Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiittttttttttttttt __________________ F#$% the Cowpukes!

09-17-2012, 07:07 PM	#104
Bucket The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 2,136	Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season I think people just talk on here to make it seem like they know what's going on lol.. Robison lacks speed? LOL. He drops one ball, and people cal for his head.. Hankerson almost dropped a WIDE OPEN ball.. Imagine if he did... A. Robinson is our fastest WR. He's a huge burner.. He almost broke it on a hitch route against the Rams. I wish I could find the video where he caught that stopping route in the preseason and totally vanished to the end zone. He's a late round pick for WR who is turning in solid performances when given the chance. __________________ HTTR Redskin Fan since '88 Be friends on Twitter! @thecasualhero

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