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Old 09-19-2012, 07:46 PM   #46
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I disagree, it's better than last year, even the secondary. The problem is Haslett not knowing how to adjust.
No rak will make us worse than last year. I hope we get it turned around but I just don't see the talent in the secondary
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:32 PM   #47
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Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams?

I think the Redskins defensive talent is above average even though they have a few holes in some positions. Haslett has enough talent and enough time to put something better than what he had against the Rams. The main thing is - Haslett has to put the players in position to make plays because even in the Rams game, the players made impact plays when they were given an opportunity.

I don't think it's a good idea to replace him now, but there needs to be some sign of improvement in the Bengals game that shows that he can coach.

The Rams loss was all on Haslett with preparation, game-plan, and in game adjustments.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:36 PM   #48
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No rak will make us worse than last year. I hope we get it turned around but I just don't see the talent in the secondary
Yes, orakpo is a big loss but a rotation of Wilson, Jackson and white will surprise. As for the secondary we have the same guys as last year, look at Gomes he's better, Wilson is playing better, meriweather is better than not having Atogwe or Landry, Crawford so far looks better than Westbrook. Our weak links are griffin, Williams and Hall. Hell, even Hall is playing better.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:43 PM   #49
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Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams?

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Remember, they also gave McNabb a big contract extension right after he was benched...lol





McNabb got a contract extension too and he wasn't going anywhere either...oh..wait.
The contract with exercisable option after the first year? No one, including McNabb, though that was going to run its course. So that's a weak argument to lean on.

I just want to point out, coming from the other skins board, it's refreshing to be able to argue these points with others who are able to articulate their point without spiraling into name calling. I had moved idea adults watched football anymore.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:45 PM   #50
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Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams?

I think Haslett let the Saints performance and post-game hype distract him. He needs to focus and also needs a Plan B and Plan C just in case Plan A wasn't working as expected. I don't think he was expecting Amendola to set a record in the first half, so obviously his game-plan wasn't working.

Another thing that I've observed is - Haslett's defense gets softer relative with when the Redskins are leading.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:02 PM   #51
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Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams?

Just thinking about it now and after reading John Keim's ten observations article on the rams game - I think it is the case where Haslett's strategy is to play softer defense when they are in the lead. In the article, Keim says that some players felt last year, the "rules" of the defense changed too often.

This may explain why opposing teams like the Rams are able to come from behind and win against the redskins. After it was 21-6 in the first half, the game should have been out of reach for the Rams - if the Redskins would have been more aggressive rather than playing soft.
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They are all professionals and so if it did happen i dont think it was with half as much of the drama that we all make it out to be on here. Personally i think they should just can his ass now and give morris the job. Wouldnt be the first time haslettusdownagain has been sent packing.
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I think Haslett let the Saints performance and post-game hype distract him. He needs to focus and also needs a Plan B and Plan C just in case Plan A wasn't working as expected. I don't think he was expecting Amendola to set a record in the first half, so obviously his game-plan wasn't working.

Another thing that I've observed is - Haslett's defense gets softer relative with when the Redskins are leading.
Would have been nice to blitz the shit out of Bradford eh? Would have loved to have done that, maybe gotten a few more turnovers and/or short fields. Not saying do that all the time, but maybe try that when you're up by two scores and see how it works? If they score on you quickly, THEN you readjust.
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Need for stability and foresight. I hoped this FO was different from the old regime.
Well being different from the old regime also means getting people in and around the team that know wtf they are doing.
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Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams?

Back in February, or whenever he told that person about the Redskins going after RGIII, he put the last nail in his coffin. From what I remember they brought in Morris to get an understanding of the 3-4 with Haslett, and they'd fire him at the end of the season.

From what I'm also hearing, Haslett never got an extension, story is false.
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Back in February, or whenever he told that person about the Redskins going after RGIII, he put the last nail in his coffin. From what I remember they brought in Morris to get an understanding of the 3-4 with Haslett, and they'd fire him at the end of the season.

From what I'm also hearing, Haslett never got an extension, story is false.
Forgot about that. See i knew it wasnt just the look on his face that appeared dumb.
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Yes, orakpo is a big loss but a rotation of Wilson, Jackson and white will surprise. As for the secondary we have the same guys as last year, look at Gomes he's better, Wilson is playing better, meriweather is better than not having Atogwe or Landry, Crawford so far looks better than Westbrook. Our weak links are griffin, Williams and Hall. Hell, even Hall is playing better.
Hall read Sam the other day and he dropped it like Carlos lol. But im one of the few hall fans I think
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Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams?

Yep, A lot of people have put blame on Haslett for his gameplan, but what people don't realize is we are thin int he secondary so we have to keep 4 LB's on the field as we did against the Rams. When Wilson went down it got even worse. So that means, Riley would of been in man coverage with one of the WR's if you wanted to Rush your two best Pass rushers in Rak, and Kerrigan.

So for people to assume that Haslett is a terrible coach is kinda a stretch. He's no hall of famer, but with the average secondary that is also injury ridden is something that hurts us more then Haslett's gameplan. Not many DC's can overcome the obstacle we have at the moment..
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Yep, A lot of people have put blame on Haslett for his gameplan, but what people don't realize is we are thin int he secondary so we have to keep 4 LB's on the field as we did against the Rams. When Wilson went down it got even worse. So that means, Riley would of been in man coverage with one of the WR's if you wanted to Rush your two best Pass rushers in Rak, and Kerrigan.

So for people to assume that Haslett is a terrible coach is kinda a stretch. He's no hall of famer, but with the average secondary that is also injury ridden is something that hurts us more then Haslett's gameplan. Not many DC's can overcome the obstacle we have at the moment..
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Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams?

no offense, but the 4th quarter D didn't really look any better than the first 3.

it's whatever, but losing orakpo and carriker doesn't make fixing the D any easier.

also, I don't really know why danny smith is here though when we have blocked kicks on a weekly basis and the guy he fought for fumbling and muffing returns at least once per game. our STs are kinda awful.
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