Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams?

punch it in · 09-20-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucket

Contradiction...

We are one of the least "deep" and talented in the league, and you may not see Amendola have a better game then this because there are better secondary's that'll be able to man up and jam him off the line.

Haslett didn't have many options.. I don't know what he could of done besides play man across the board, and hope for the best. Even then, I don't see Riley being able to man up on the slot all game.

If it was ME. I would of brought in Crawford to man up Amendola in rotation w/ Hall and run a Over Man at the top. Still wouldn't of stopped the quick throws, but at least we could made Bradford think about it.

My point was that we arent the worst secondary in football and amedola wont have a game like that against lesser ones. Therefore it is hasletts fault and i agree with having hall / crawford rotate in slot and playing man across board. Haslett though stuck to his guns for far too long.

Chico23231 · 09-20-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I just watch the NFL network replay and this is what I saw:

Lots of cushion by the DB's
Griffin the CB had a bad game
Rams OL got away with lots of holding
Refs were horrendous
Tackling by the defense in general was horrendous lots of mistackles
No anticipation by the defense on lots of plays (bad coaching)
Fred Davis dropped like 3 balls
Robinson dropping the deep ball (something was mentioned by the lights on the dome causing it)
Blocked punt changed the gameNo one covering on Mulligan's TD in the endzone
easy 2 pt. conversion given
Overall the skins were in the game, a bonehead play by Morgan, a bad decision to go for a 62 yard field goal after initially looking like they were going for the first down.

Next week they kick ass on the Bengals.

We've been talking all week at work about this, the block punt WAS the most important play in the game. In fact, the RG3 Int was the second most important play in the game. The Aldrick Robinson drop the 3rd. The Morgan play is over rated and everyone been pointing to it. Cundiff was not a gurantee to make the game tieing kick.

Just going back and looking at the plays, we committed a ton of errors on the field. Take out the block punt, RG3 Int and the Robinson drop, we probably win 13-17 points minimum and were not crushing Haslett all week.

This is still a young team, trying to come together as a group. Gotta give it a lil more time.

Lotus · 09-20-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

We've been talking all week at work about this, the block punt WAS the most important play in the game. In fact, the RG3 Int was the second most important play in the game. The Aldrick Robinson drop the 3rd. The Morgan play is over rated and everyone been pointing to it. Cundiff was not a gurantee to make the game tieing kick.

Just going back and looking at the plays, we committed a ton of errors on the field. Take out the block punt, RG3 Int and the Robinson drop, we probably win 13-17 points minimum and were not crushing Haslett all week.

This is still a young team, trying to come together as a group. Gotta give it a lil more time.

I agree with you. The blocked punt was the biggest play, not some of the others that people are talking about. Take away that play and we likely come home with a W.

WaldSkins · 09-20-2012, 09:39 AM

Redskins gave Jim Haslett a contract extension | ProFootballTalk
Apparently Haslett and Danny Smith were recently signed to extensions

SmootSmack · 09-20-2012, 09:53 AM

I' m still vacationing and still don't have reason to believe this story is true

punch it in · 09-20-2012, 10:06 AM

Im Not nearly in the know as smootsmack and if they were recently signed to contract extensions than i can only assume snyder has bought vinny back into the fold.

SFREDSKIN · 09-20-2012, 10:12 AM

The contract extension was also reported by the Wapo, maybe they got the story from profootballtalk?

Redskins give contract extensions to coaches Jim Haslett, Danny Smith

Monkeydad · 09-20-2012, 10:16 AM

Another source.

https://twitter.com/Russellmania980/...63303348060160

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So crazy day - Haslett & Danny get extended (confirmed Haz to 2013/+ hefty raise), stupid death threats & Haz DID NOT get PC duties yanked

skinsguy · 09-20-2012, 10:22 AM

Didn't Danny Smith and Jim Haslett receive contract extensions like a year ago? Because, I don't see the logic in giving those coaches, yet, another contract extension after two blocked punts, no decent kick-off returns, and two games in which the defense gave up 30+ points. That just does not compute, so I'm calling BS on that part of the story.

I can, however, believe that Raheem Morris was brought in to replace Haslett by next year. And, it just might happen sooner than that if the 'skins defense is starting to take sides (Haslett VS Morris.) My personal opinion, I've never been very high on Haslett to begin with, but I do give him credit with improving the defense from his first year. Unfortunately, with the injuries starting to pile up, I don't see a continuation of improvement on the defensive side of the ball. However, it's just two games, so things may drastically change between now and by mid-season.

Chico23231 · 09-20-2012, 10:24 AM

whether they get extentions or not, they still could be fired at a drop of a hat if their performance lags...non-story imo

skinsguy · 09-20-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

whether they get extentions or not, they still could be fired at a drop of a hat if their performance lags...non-story imo

Agreed! I don't see it being much of a factor regardless. If it is true, it was probably just something that was agreed upon several months ago.

Monkeydad · 09-20-2012, 10:42 AM

I don't see the defense taking sides. Morris was brought in to help the weakest part of our team. The secondary. He's great at motivating his guys and they'll be loyal to him but they'll still understand that Haslett is the DC. I see Morris cheering on the offense and keeping his guys motivated while they're getting burnt...but he's also helping them play better than they really are, especially in Week 1.

We're in the 3rd year of the 3-4 and should see some strides this year barring any more devastating injuries like Kerrigan, Bowen, Cofield, Wilson, Hall or God forbid Fletcher.

I don't know why we're struggling so much other than our secondary is being exploited, but I don't see a mutiny happening.

CRedskinsRule · 09-20-2012, 10:46 AM

No one, at least it seems to me, is pointing out that the Defense is directly responsible for 1 redskins touchdown in each game. I think that is worth some discussion as well

skinsguy · 09-20-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No one, at least it seems to me, is pointing out that the Defense is directly responsible for 1 redskins touchdown in each game. I think that is worth some discussion as well

That, I give the players all the credit for making the big plays. It's not the players I'm concerned about.

Monkeydad · 09-20-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No one, at least it seems to me, is pointing out that the Defense is directly responsible for 1 redskins touchdown in each game. I think that is worth some discussion as well

Special teams canceled BOTH of those TDs out unfortunately.

09-20-2012, 09:39 AM	#79
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 29 Posts: 2,714	Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams? Redskins gave Jim Haslett a contract extension \| ProFootballTalk Apparently Haslett and Danny Smith were recently signed to extensions __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown

09-20-2012, 09:53 AM	#80
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,095	Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams? I' m still vacationing and still don't have reason to believe this story is true __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-20-2012, 10:06 AM	#81
punch it in Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 41 Posts: 3,369	Im Not nearly in the know as smootsmack and if they were recently signed to contract extensions than i can only assume snyder has bought vinny back into the fold. __________________ "Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate." Vince Lombardi

09-20-2012, 10:12 AM	#82
SFREDSKIN Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 6,501	Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams? The contract extension was also reported by the Wapo, maybe they got the story from profootballtalk? Redskins give contract extensions to coaches Jim Haslett, Danny Smith __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

09-20-2012, 10:22 AM	#84
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 5,998	Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams? Didn't Danny Smith and Jim Haslett receive contract extensions like a year ago? Because, I don't see the logic in giving those coaches, yet, another contract extension after two blocked punts, no decent kick-off returns, and two games in which the defense gave up 30+ points. That just does not compute, so I'm calling BS on that part of the story. I can, however, believe that Raheem Morris was brought in to replace Haslett by next year. And, it just might happen sooner than that if the 'skins defense is starting to take sides (Haslett VS Morris.) My personal opinion, I've never been very high on Haslett to begin with, but I do give him credit with improving the defense from his first year. Unfortunately, with the injuries starting to pile up, I don't see a continuation of improvement on the defensive side of the ball. However, it's just two games, so things may drastically change between now and by mid-season. __________________ Not the same Skinsguy that posts on ES.

09-20-2012, 10:24 AM	#85
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,774	Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams? whether they get extentions or not, they still could be fired at a drop of a hat if their performance lags...non-story imo __________________ Ready for the Draft.

09-20-2012, 10:42 AM	#87
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 33 Posts: 14,884	Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams? I don't see the defense taking sides. Morris was brought in to help the weakest part of our team. The secondary. He's great at motivating his guys and they'll be loyal to him but they'll still understand that Haslett is the DC. I see Morris cheering on the offense and keeping his guys motivated while they're getting burnt...but he's also helping them play better than they really are, especially in Week 1. We're in the 3rd year of the 3-4 and should see some strides this year barring any more devastating injuries like Kerrigan, Bowen, Cofield, Wilson, Hall or God forbid Fletcher. I don't know why we're struggling so much other than our secondary is being exploited, but I don't see a mutiny happening. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

09-20-2012, 10:46 AM	#88
CRedskinsRule MVP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pasadena, Md Age: 45 Posts: 10,901	Re: Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams? No one, at least it seems to me, is pointing out that the Defense is directly responsible for 1 redskins touchdown in each game. I think that is worth some discussion as well

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