Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction

skinsfaninok · 09-23-2012, 09:56 PM

http://www.nfl.com/teams/statistics?team=WAS

Whens the last time we avg 33 points per game? Wow

skinsfaninok · 09-23-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Is anyone else worried about Orakpo's future here? Or is that just me?

I think he's here another year at Least

mooby · 09-23-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

It's legit to complain about poor personnel decisions when good players are allowed to leave. Paying D. Hall huge dollars was a mistake. That money would have been better spent to keep Rogers, a far superior pass and run defender. He even started catching the ball at SF.

What's funny is I actually agree with you, I'd definitely rather have Rogers over Hall right now.

But my actual point is right now, as of this moment, we have Hall, and the 49ers have Rogers. So what good does bringing it up do? If we talk about it enough, is it going to make coaches/FO personnel realize the error of their ways and try to find a way to bring him back? Is it going to make any difference whatsoever in what this FO does tomorrow? No. Because they're probably focused 100% on the players we do have and the problems we have to solve.

Ruhskins · 09-23-2012, 09:58 PM

The only way Orakpo's future here is in jeopardy is if his health becomes an issue.

GTripp0012 · 09-23-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

If those two clowns were our "best" we had on our defense, it kinda tells you how pathetic the talent level really was on this team. (both sides)

Can we apply the same standard you are holding Landry and Rogers to on Brian Orakpo, who just lost a critical season (maybe the decisive season) as a Redskin because he didn't entirely heal from the preseason injury and or last years injury? I mean he was a Cerrato pick so he's pretty much part of the problem at this point.

GTripp0012 · 09-23-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The only way Orakpo's future here is in jeopardy is if his health becomes an issue.

You sure?

Ruhskins · 09-23-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

You sure?

Either that or if some team comes with a good offer for him.

GTripp0012 · 09-23-2012, 10:05 PM

Here's the point that I'm making with Orakpo: it's easy to find fault with anyone after they are gone. The shanahans have made an Art of it. If Orakpo doesn't have a rebound year in 2013 and the defense continues to struggle, you can either try to build around your best players, or point out that they want more money that you're willing to play and move on without them. Doing the latter gets you the Redskins current secondary. It almost cost the Redskins London Fletcher. It could cost them Orakpo.

mooby · 09-23-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Either that or if some team comes with a good offer for him.

I agree. I felt like he was coming into the scheme well so far, obviously he's not a huge asset in coverage but as long as he did an adequate job on that (and they didn't put him in the slot against any speedy wideouts *coughschemeissuecough*) as well as kept the sacks coming I think he has a future here. There's still a part of me that feels he'd be better as a 4-3 edge rusher but I liked the pressure him and Kerrigan were able to get as bookend pass rushers. And with so many holes on other areas of the team upgrading over Orakpo definitely wouldn't have been a priority at all, at least unless the scenarios Ruh said presented themselves.

SmootSmack · 09-23-2012, 10:09 PM

Orakpo and the Skins were working on a long term deal this summer, don't know what became of it. But I don't see him going anywhere. Yes they included him in original discussions for RG3 but that's kind of standard.

tmandoug1 · 09-23-2012, 10:09 PM

maybe I missed this but don't we have a new secondary coach? How come no trashing him?

mooby · 09-23-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tmandoug1

maybe I missed this but don't we have a new secondary coach? How come no trashing him?

It's hard to trash him if we don't know the whole situation. What if he is actually against the way Haslett is running the defense and would rather control the secondary his way? Who knows who is actually running the show back there. I would think Haslett is still calling the plays for the defense, and I'm pretty sure most of them already have a plan for the db's in place. But like I said, I have no idea how much input he has in the situation so I'm not gonna criticize him.

CRedskinsRule · 09-23-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aircoryell

Given the circumstances at the time the decisions had to be made Shanahan absolutely made the right call.
It's easy to second guess down the road when you know the outcome.

this is one truth. another truth is there are no absolutes. lets say we kept rogers at his price, do we know he would have mimiced his pro bowl year? we don't.

what would 18mill in cap space last offseason meant to our oline depth and/or secondary? probably 2 upgraded bodies competing in camp. SS's point about offenses playing down to our offense makes alot of sense to me at this point.

GTripp0012 · 09-23-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

this is one truth. another truth is there are no absolutes. lets say we kept rogers at his price, do we know he would have mimiced his pro bowl year? we don't.

what would 18mill in cap space last offseason meant to our oline depth and/or secondary? probably 2 upgraded bodies competing in camp. SS's point about offenses playing down to our offense makes alot of sense to me at this point.

We could have upgraded two positions anyway by giving up on known weaknesses. This is what we chose.

Mattyk · 09-23-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

All these Hall cry babies are making me sick. Get the f*ck over it, you can cut Hall fifty times over this season and the team will still have a million problems.

Furthermore, I hate when people cry about people like Carlos Rogers, who played like sh*t for the team and left on his own accord or Laron Landry who also sucked when he played here. You know what? F*CK Rogers and F*CK Landry, they don't play for my team anymore.

This, this, and this

09-23-2012, 09:56 PM	#271
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,994	http://www.nfl.com/teams/statistics?team=WAS Whens the last time we avg 33 points per game? Wow __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

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Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	Re: Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction The only way Orakpo's future here is in jeopardy is if his health becomes an issue. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

09-23-2012, 10:05 PM	#278
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Here's the point that I'm making with Orakpo: it's easy to find fault with anyone after they are gone. The shanahans have made an Art of it. If Orakpo doesn't have a rebound year in 2013 and the defense continues to struggle, you can either try to build around your best players, or point out that they want more money that you're willing to play and move on without them. Doing the latter gets you the Redskins current secondary. It almost cost the Redskins London Fletcher. It could cost them Orakpo. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

09-23-2012, 10:09 PM	#280
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,102	Re: Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction Orakpo and the Skins were working on a long term deal this summer, don't know what became of it. But I don't see him going anywhere. Yes they included him in original discussions for RG3 but that's kind of standard. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-23-2012, 10:09 PM	#281
tmandoug1 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 339	Re: Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction maybe I missed this but don't we have a new secondary coach? How come no trashing him? __________________ T-man

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