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Old 09-23-2012, 09:58 PM   #271
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The only way Orakpo's future here is in jeopardy is if his health becomes an issue.
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:58 PM   #272
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If those two clowns were our "best" we had on our defense, it kinda tells you how pathetic the talent level really was on this team. (both sides)
Can we apply the same standard you are holding Landry and Rogers to on Brian Orakpo, who just lost a critical season (maybe the decisive season) as a Redskin because he didn't entirely heal from the preseason injury and or last years injury? I mean he was a Cerrato pick so he's pretty much part of the problem at this point.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:00 PM   #273
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The only way Orakpo's future here is in jeopardy is if his health becomes an issue.
You sure?
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You sure?
Either that or if some team comes with a good offer for him.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:05 PM   #275
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Here's the point that I'm making with Orakpo: it's easy to find fault with anyone after they are gone. The shanahans have made an Art of it. If Orakpo doesn't have a rebound year in 2013 and the defense continues to struggle, you can either try to build around your best players, or point out that they want more money that you're willing to play and move on without them. Doing the latter gets you the Redskins current secondary. It almost cost the Redskins London Fletcher. It could cost them Orakpo.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:08 PM   #276
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Either that or if some team comes with a good offer for him.
I agree. I felt like he was coming into the scheme well so far, obviously he's not a huge asset in coverage but as long as he did an adequate job on that (and they didn't put him in the slot against any speedy wideouts *coughschemeissuecough*) as well as kept the sacks coming I think he has a future here. There's still a part of me that feels he'd be better as a 4-3 edge rusher but I liked the pressure him and Kerrigan were able to get as bookend pass rushers. And with so many holes on other areas of the team upgrading over Orakpo definitely wouldn't have been a priority at all, at least unless the scenarios Ruh said presented themselves.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:09 PM   #277
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Orakpo and the Skins were working on a long term deal this summer, don't know what became of it. But I don't see him going anywhere. Yes they included him in original discussions for RG3 but that's kind of standard.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:09 PM   #278
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maybe I missed this but don't we have a new secondary coach? How come no trashing him?
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:11 PM   #279
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maybe I missed this but don't we have a new secondary coach? How come no trashing him?
It's hard to trash him if we don't know the whole situation. What if he is actually against the way Haslett is running the defense and would rather control the secondary his way? Who knows who is actually running the show back there. I would think Haslett is still calling the plays for the defense, and I'm pretty sure most of them already have a plan for the db's in place. But like I said, I have no idea how much input he has in the situation so I'm not gonna criticize him.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:12 PM   #280
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Given the circumstances at the time the decisions had to be made Shanahan absolutely made the right call.
It's easy to second guess down the road when you know the outcome.
this is one truth. another truth is there are no absolutes. lets say we kept rogers at his price, do we know he would have mimiced his pro bowl year? we don't.

what would 18mill in cap space last offseason meant to our oline depth and/or secondary? probably 2 upgraded bodies competing in camp. SS's point about offenses playing down to our offense makes alot of sense to me at this point.
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this is one truth. another truth is there are no absolutes. lets say we kept rogers at his price, do we know he would have mimiced his pro bowl year? we don't.

what would 18mill in cap space last offseason meant to our oline depth and/or secondary? probably 2 upgraded bodies competing in camp. SS's point about offenses playing down to our offense makes alot of sense to me at this point.
We could have upgraded two positions anyway by giving up on known weaknesses. This is what we chose.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:17 PM   #282
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All these Hall cry babies are making me sick. Get the f*ck over it, you can cut Hall fifty times over this season and the team will still have a million problems.

Furthermore, I hate when people cry about people like Carlos Rogers, who played like sh*t for the team and left on his own accord or Laron Landry who also sucked when he played here. You know what? F*CK Rogers and F*CK Landry, they don't play for my team anymore.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:17 PM   #283
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Good overview by Keim:

Bengals 38, Redskins 31: Ten Observations | WashingtonExaminer.com
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Here's the point that I'm making with Orakpo: it's easy to find fault with anyone after they are gone. The shanahans have made an Art of it. If Orakpo doesn't have a rebound year in 2013 and the defense continues to struggle, you can either try to build around your best players, or point out that they want more money that you're willing to play and move on without them. Doing the latter gets you the Redskins current secondary. It almost cost the Redskins London Fletcher. It could cost them Orakpo.
So to summarize you're suggesting we should have overpaid for Rogers and Landry. Regardless of what course of action the Shanahans decided on they would have been wrong. And you're also trying to tie Brian Orakpo into the same argument by comparing him to two underwhelming performing secondary players.
And no, we were never in danger of losing Fletcher...
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:24 PM   #285
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More thoughts on today's game:

Initial Thoughts & Observations: Bengals 38, Redskins 31 - Washington Times
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