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Old 09-23-2012, 11:11 PM   #301
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Offense has been good. It hasn't hit it's potential either. I mean, Alfred Morris has been effective, but he's the third best RB on the team, right? They haven't been that aggressive on fourth down either. And they've avoided the play action heavy part of the play book that fueled the passing game either. The potential to be a top offense is there, but they'll need to make those improvements.
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:14 PM   #302
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Offense has been good. It hasn't hit it's potential either. I mean, Alfred Morris has been effective, but he's the third best RB on the team, right? They haven't been that aggressive on fourth down either. And they've avoided the play action heavy part of the play book that fueled the passing game either. The potential to be a top offense is there, but they'll need to make those improvements.
Also have to have Garcon healthy
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:18 PM   #303
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Also have to have Garcon healthy
That would help but the biggest improvement is getting polumbus out of the lineup.
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That would help but the biggest improvement is getting polumbus out of the lineup.
Yeah he's just bad
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:19 PM   #305
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Yeah how can we go from horrible on offense to pretty damn good and good to God awful on defense?? Smh
I still say Spanos had a heavy hand in last year's squad. Of course that's not all.. injuries, scheme, player errors
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:23 PM   #306
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I'm not going to defend the defense here, but as I watch the Patriots and Ravens play, and I look at all the other high scoring games, and I wonder if it's just too much to expect consistent defensive play. Especially against anything other then the poorest of offensive teams. Look at some of the other teams with top defenses this week:
SF - gave up 24 points in a loss to Minnesota
Pitt - gave up 34 points in a loss to Oakland
Houston - gave up 25 points in a win to Denver
Balt - ongoing, but so far has given up 30 points to NE
NYJ - gave up 20 points to Miami(!) and won in OT

I know the counter point is that Chicago held the mighty Rams to 6 points, or Atlanta's D held SD to 3 (yes I would still like Nolan as our DC, but I know that ain't happening) but overall, this is a league where scoring 30 points is no longer an exception, but instead nearly required in order to win consistently.

Again not defending our D, they need to be able to stop teams, but everyone knew going in, this was going to be a track meet type game.

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Old 09-23-2012, 11:27 PM   #307
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It was crazy to think that the secondary put together in the offseason could be anything other than terrible. I love RG3 but the fact that we can't pick up a top corner or Tackle the next two years in the first round hurts. The NFL cap penalty also is really going to hurt us in picking up quality vets to fix this problem... Eff Goodell and Mara.
There are tackles and safeties and corners all over the league that are not first round picks. They are coached well and used to their strengths. This problem falls on the shoulders of our gm and coaches to not only draft well but to coach well.
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:29 PM   #308
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I'm not going to defend the defense here, but as I watch the Patriots and Ravens play, and I look at all the other high scoring games, and I wonder if it's just too much to expect consistent defensive play. Especially against anything other then the poorest of offensive teams. Look at some of the other teams with top defenses this week:
SF - gave up 24 points in a loss to Minnesota
Pitt - gave up 34 points in a loss to Oakland
Houston - gave up 25 points in a win to Denver
Balt - ongoing, but so far has given up 30 points to NE
NYJ - gave up 20 points to Miami(!) and won in OT

I know the counter point is that Chicago held the mighty Rams to 6 points, or Atlanta's D held SD to 3 (yes I would still like Nolan as our DC, but I know that ain't happening) but overall, this is a league where scoring 30 points is no longer an exception, but instead nearly required in order to win consistently.

Again not defending our D, they need to be able to stop teams, but everyone knew going in, this was going to be a track meet type game.
I think when the team tied the game, the offense had two opportunities to put up points and take the lead. The first was after the Law Firm's fumble and after that series the defense made a stop. I think the offense had good field position during those two offensive drives and made nothing of it.
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I'm not going to defend the defense here, but as I watch the Patriots and Ravens play, and I look at all the other high scoring games, and I wonder if it's just too much to expect consistent defensive play. Especially against anything other then the poorest of offensive teams. Look at some of the other teams with top defenses this week:
SF - gave up 24 points in a loss to Minnesota
Pitt - gave up 34 points in a loss to Oakland
Houston - gave up 25 points in a win to Denver
Balt - ongoing, but so far has given up 30 points to NE
NYJ - gave up 20 points to Miami(!) and won in OT

I know the counter point is that Chicago held the mighty Rams to 6 points, or Atlanta's D held SD to 3 (yes I would still like Nolan as our DC, but I know that ain't happening) but overall, this is a league where scoring 30 points is no longer an exception, but instead nearly required in order to win consistently.

Again not defending our D, they need to be able to stop teams, but everyone knew going in, this was going to be a track meet type game.
Good post
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:30 PM   #310
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I'm not going to defend the defense here, but as I watch the Patriots and Ravens play, and I look at all the other high scoring games, and I wonder if it's just too much to expect consistent defensive play. Especially against anything other then the poorest of offensive teams. Look at some of the other teams with top defenses this week:
SF - gave up 24 points in a loss to Minnesota
Pitt - gave up 34 points in a loss to Oakland
Houston - gave up 25 points in a win to Denver
Balt - ongoing, but so far has given up 30 points to NE
NYJ - gave up 20 points to Miami(!) and won in OT

I know the counter point is that Chicago held the mighty Rams to 6 points, or Atlanta's D held SD to 3 (yes I would still like Nolan as our DC, but I know that ain't happening) but overall, this is a league where scoring 30 points is no longer an exception, but instead nearly required in order to win consistently.

Again not defending our D, they need to be able to stop teams, but everyone knew going in, this was going to be a track meet type game.
Good point. We might just need to revalibrate what passes for good defense.
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:32 PM   #311
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Re: Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction

Look on the bright side. If RGIII wasn't on the redskins, the score would've been something like 45-7.

Whatever anyone says- these losses can mainly be blamed on Haslett. I don't care what anyone says about how its the players' fault or its the shanahans (which btw is the most ludricious thing).
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I'm not going to defend the defense here, but as I watch the Patriots and Ravens play, and I look at all the other high scoring games, and I wonder if it's just too much to expect consistent defensive play. Especially against anything other then the poorest of offensive teams. Look at some of the other teams with top defenses this week:
SF - gave up 24 points in a loss to Minnesota
Pitt - gave up 34 points in a loss to Oakland
Houston - gave up 25 points in a win to Denver
Balt - ongoing, but so far has given up 30 points to NE
NYJ - gave up 20 points to Miami(!) and won in OT

I know the counter point is that Chicago held the mighty Rams to 6 points, or Atlanta's D held SD to 3 (yes I would still like Nolan as our DC, but I know that ain't happening) but overall, this is a league where scoring 30 points is no longer an exception, but instead nearly required in order to win consistently.

Again not defending our D, they need to be able to stop teams, but everyone knew going in, this was going to be a track meet type game.
I see your point. Only thing is those teams haven't given up those types of numbers 3 weeks in a row.
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:32 PM   #313
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I think when the team tied the game, the offense had two opportunities to put up points and take the lead. The first was after the Law Firm's fumble and after that series the defense made a stop. I think the offense had good field position during those two offensive drives and made nothing of it.
After the fumble I thought we had the game
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I'm not going to defend the defense here, but as I watch the Patriots and Ravens play, and I look at all the other high scoring games, and I wonder if it's just too much to expect consistent defensive play. Especially against anything other then the poorest of offensive teams. Look at some of the other teams with top defenses this week:
SF - gave up 24 points in a loss to Minnesota
Pitt - gave up 34 points in a loss to Oakland
Houston - gave up 25 points in a win to Denver
Balt - ongoing, but so far has given up 30 points to NE
NYJ - gave up 20 points to Miami(!) and won in OT

I know the counter point is that Chicago held the mighty Rams to 6 points, or Atlanta's D held SD to 3 (yes I would still like Nolan as our DC, but I know that ain't happening) but overall, this is a league where scoring 30 points is no longer an exception, but instead nearly required in order to win consistently.

Again not defending our D, they need to be able to stop teams, but everyone knew going in, this was going to be a track meet type game.
You are comparing our d to the top defenses in the league. Maybe this week was strange ? I dont know. What i do know is that every defense you mentioned above is far superior to what we are putting on the field.
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Re: Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction

In conjunction with my last post, a breakdown of score range shows that defenses seem to be losing the general battle:

Shutouts: 0
2 - 9 pts allowed: 4 teams
10-19 pts "" : 5 teams
20-29 pts " " : 12 teams (note: Baltimore has 28, but game not over yet)
30-39 pts " " : 7 teams
40-49 pts " " : 2 teams
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