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Old 09-24-2012, 12:40 AM   #346
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If we held teams to 25 points we would be 3-0 if we held them to 30 we would be 2-1. Just saying we don't need an elite d but one that does not leak quite so bad. If we didn't have RG III we would be getting destroyed.
are your numbers supposing that the d didn't contribute 2 TD's And a first down at the 1?

Our O has scored 33, 21, and 24. So holding a team to 25, would leave us at 1 -2 Right?

any way, our defense needs to not give up long bombs like lollipops. so far it's been like taking candy from a baby, a lot of kicking and whining, but not really stopping anyone.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:41 AM   #347
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When there's so many things that seem to be wrong with the defense, who do you think is responsible? Haslett gets the blame for all of this because he's responsible for fixing the defensive mess. Who else has the power and experience to change things?

It's not like the defense of talent like some fans would like to believe- Josh Wilson, Kerrigan, Bowen, Cofield, Fletcher. Not to mention the potential that the younger defensive players have and have even shown. Don't tell me that a good defensive coordinator couldn't get way more out of this group than Haslett.
They probably would. We've had top 10 defenses in all but two years from 2002-2009. (2003 and 2006 being the only times we fell outside the top 10). We've already matched it since Haslet came and are on pace to fall outside the top 10 for the third straight year.

The defensive front is better then ever even with the injuries. I know the secondary sucks but this is a league where dominant Super Bowl winning defenses have masked weak secondaries multiple times with strong front 7's. Then again Morris is in charge of the secondary and the secondary has been the achilies heal of the defense so not sure if he'll be much better.
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I would find another SAM and put Orakpo as a DE. Orakpo has no coverage skills to be a LB.
I'm just trying to get the best 7 players on the field. Leaving a healthy Cariker on the sidelines in favor of someone like Keenan Robinson when Rak had success at OLB is a mistake if you ask me. Still the irony of it all is it confirms that we are now most definitely a 3-4 team.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:44 AM   #349
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DE Rak
DT Cofield
DT Bowen
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MLB Fletcher
OLB Draft pick or FA signing
And give Mike Zimmer a ton of money to be our d-coord.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:47 AM   #350
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And give Mike Zimmer a ton of money to be our d-coord.
Draft all secondary and oline and spend every remaining penny in free agency on that other linebacker and oline n secondary again. Oh and shitcan danny smith for good measure.
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I think that is classless.
All team have to deal with poor officiating not just the Redskins.
The refs suck, he has to adjust and deal with it.
Daniel Snyder needs to chase down Kyle and ask him why the Redskins are 11-40 on third downs. only Tampa has a worse 3rd down conversion ratio.
I don't understand how they can average 5 yards per carry and be so bad on third downs.
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I think that is classless.
All team have to deal with poor officiating not just the Redskins.
The refs suck, he has to adjust and deal with it.
Daniel Snyder needs to chase down Kyle and ask him why the Redskins are 11-40 on third downs. only Tampa has a worse 3rd down conversion ratio.
I don't understand how they can average 5 yards per carry and be so bad on third downs.
Good point. I think everyone is just so fed up with the refs ( not just because of the redskins) that its nice to hear that anyone is letting them have it. But i agree - everyone is harping on the defense - and for good reason. But truth be told our offense could be even better.
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I think that is classless.
All team have to deal with poor officiating not just the Redskins.
The refs suck, he has to adjust and deal with it.
Daniel Snyder needs to chase down Kyle and ask him why the Redskins are 11-40 on third downs. only Tampa has a worse 3rd down conversion ratio.
I don't understand how they can average 5 yards per carry and be so bad on third downs.
Someone needs to chase down Dan Snyder and ask him to push for this ref lockout to end. Kyle will get fined for this I am sure, but he needs to tell his dad to talk to their boss about the whole ref situation.

At least he didn't pull a Belicheat and take a swipe at the ref.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:55 AM   #354
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One thing that Haslett should know if he doesn't already - he needs to be up at least 20 hours a day this week to fix these problems. Instead of fixing anything and improving from game to game, it's actually gotten worse. If this trend continues, I can reasonably predict that Haslett will be fired within 2 games. At this point, the redskins defense is an embarrassment.
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When there's so many things that seem to be wrong with the defense, who do you think is responsible? Haslett gets the blame for all of this because he's responsible for fixing the defensive mess. Who else has the power and experience to change things?

It's not like the defense is completely devoid of talent like some fans would like to believe- Josh Wilson, Kerrigan, Bowen, Cofield, Fletcher. Not to mention the potential that the younger defensive players have and have even shown. Don't tell me that a good defensive coordinator couldn't get way more out of this group than Haslett.
I agree with you on that. We have talent over there.
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DE Rak
DT Cofield
DT Bowen
DE Kerrigan
OLB Riley
MLB Fletcher
OLB Draft pick or FA signing
Overrated.

How many of these guys start for another NFC east team outside of Fletcher?
Our two "Young Studs" aren't as good as Osi-JPP, Cole-Babin and Ware-Spencer.
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Overrated.

How many of these guys start for another NFC east team outside of Fletcher?
Our two "Young Studs" aren't as good as Osi-JPP, Cole-Babin and Ware-Spencer.
Let's see - hmmm - I know at least 2 of them would- because Bowen and Cofield actually did before they came to the Redskins.

And are you saying that it's the players that are mostly at fault?
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:18 AM   #358
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Yes, the offense could be better. Right now the only way this offense thrives is with RG3 running often, keeping the defense on its heals, but also resulting in a lot of big hits to our franchise QB. No starting caliber QB can keep this up for a season. (Tebow probably could for example, but he's not starting caliber.) Morris is good, but RG3 is at least half his "goodness" so far in the regular season. The play-calling and scheme, up until the point RG3 starts taking off every 2nd or 3rd play, are as bad is it gets in pro football. When he's not looking to run, the offense looks the same as the last couple years, when you could tell the defense was (correctly) reading every two out of three plays Kyle called.

RG3 is a superstar for as long as he's healthy, but otherwise...we're three years in with this regime and have only one starting-caliber OT on the roster (who's now injured) and the best downfield targets so far this season are guys the current regime inherited.

And sticking with the big picture theme, the defense is garbage by any measure, including when compared to the one Shanny and Co inherited. Was that defense older? Sure. Was it in need of some updating? Definitely. Was it also vastly superior to what we've (collectively) seen with Shanahan/Haslett? If you even waiver in saying yes...the kool-aid is strong within you my friend.

Going into this season I knew Mike would never coach another SB team again, but now I suspect he'll never coach a winning team again either.

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Old 09-24-2012, 01:31 AM   #359
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Gomes was saying he was playing too close to the line on the first play and td of the game. And Crawford said it was his fault too that he didn't look back for the ball (which he thinks is his strength) when he got beat for the last td.

So Rich Campbell (who's work I like) uses these examples to put some of the blame on the players, I think he's absolutely wrong. They didn't do what they needed to do, but it's because they didn't prepare well enough. And whose main responsibility is to prepare them? You got it - Haslett. The articles keep mentioning his lack of in game adjustments, but his pregame planning and preparation have been as bad.
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I want to take a different angle during my post game review.
-RGIII is one TOUGH SOB! He took some serious shots today, and kept shaking them off. My main concern is that this is going to take its toll after a few more games like this. We have got to find a way to lessen the amount of direct impact hits he's taken. Rookie censation or not, nobody can take to much of that (Vick) before it has long term effects.
-Morris is a f-ing beast, and is looking like a steal from the 6th round.
-No punts blocked!
-The refs still sucked, but at least this group tried to get it right.
-Doesn't look like Trents injury will keep him out too long (his replacement looked like a pregnant stripper with an eye patch)
- Even with Orakpo and Carriker gone, we still managed to put a little pressure on them.

Glass half-full guys. We can't expect to play lights out with 3 starters out on D, and 2-3 at a time on O. We are getting to where we need to be, I just think we ran the ball a little too much. There were 3-4 short screen passes, but other than that we didn't do much to take some pressure off the QB. The triple-option was nice, but 2-3 plays in a row was over the top. HTTR!!!
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