Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction

JoeRedskin · 09-24-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

I am very optimistic about rg3 but there are some glaring problems here. We are in the midst of what might appaear to be our third five win season in a row. This on the heels of 15 years of - well- crap. So just out of curiosity - at what point is it acceptable in your mind to take our super fan capes off and become upset with the product we are putting on the field?

You know what? You may be right. We may win just 5. At the same time, who the f*** knows? You want to believe that. Fine. Bitching here won't fix them. I choose to believe that the offense will score enough to win more than 5 games.

Upset with the product? I get f'ing upset every f'ing time we lose. I bleed burgundy and gold when they lose. I used to come here looking for solace and someone to give me reason to believe that there was some good sh**.

Does our backend defense suck? Yup. Do Polumbus and Black suck? Yup? Of course there are glaring problems. Does it take a rocket scientist to figure them out? No. Are KS and MS going anywhere anytime soon? No.

Does any of that brilliant and depth analysis, half of it down with an "I told you so" attitude, give me any reason to feel better? No.

I'm not drinking kool-aid - I see the flaws. I just have enough in life to bring me down - tell me a reason to have hope.

I come here to cheer the Skins. Suckage or not.

punch it in · 09-24-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Why is it every year Skins fans are told ahead of time that the team won't be a playoff caliber team and then when the season starts and we lose a couple its a surprise, 'fix this, fix that' situation because to them we're supposed to have the 72 Dolphins team.

No the question is .....why every year are we told were not a playoff team??? Lol. Than these in- fights start. Field a damn winning team more than three times in 20 years and this wont be an issue. Im a fan. A customer if you will. Im allowed to be upset if my product fails. Upset at the individuals whose job it is to fix it. I mean in the question you pose you are implying that it is acceptable to be told every year this is not the yeAr. Efff that!

Paintrain · 09-24-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

Will all the....crybabies and...Dooms-dayers be done by then as well?

Nah, but the focus will shift to next Sunday's game and away from yesterday. Damn you for drawing me back in before Thursday!

CultBrennan59 · 09-24-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

No the question is .....why every year are we told were not a playoff team??? Lol. Than these in- fights start. Field a damn winning team more than three times in 20 years and this wont be an issue. Im a fan. A customer if you will. Im allowed to be upset if my product fails. Upset at the individuals whose job it is to fix it. I mean in the question you pose you are implying that it is acceptable to be told every year this is not the yeAr. Efff that!

it takes time, we're getting there people and we're getting in the right direction, if you pull the plug on the experiment now we go back to square 1.

punch it in · 09-24-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

You know what? You may be right. We may win just 5. At the same time, who the f*** knows? You want to believe that. Fine. Bitching here won't fix them. I choose to believe that the offense will score enough to win more than 5 games.

Upset with the product? I get f'ing upset every f'ing time we lose. I bleed burgundy and gold when they lose. I used to come here looking for solace and someone to give me reason to believe that there was some good sh**.

Does our backend defense suck? Yup. Do Polumbus and Black suck? Yup? Of course there are glaring problems. Does it take a rocket scientist to figure them out? No. Are KS and MS going anywhere anytime soon? No.

Does any of that brilliant and depth analysis, half of it down with an "I told you so" attitude, give me any reason to feel better? No.

I'm not drinking kool-aid - I see the flaws. I just have enough in life to bring me down - tell me a reason to have hope.

I come here to cheer the Skins. Suckage or not.

Fair enough. Im not an i told u so fan. I dont need to hear that crap either. We all want to win. I will root for the skins whether we ever win another game or not. However just as the people that ONLY want to bitch piss me off so do the ones who say " thank you sir may i have another". Lol. I understand that moaning isnt going to change things but it is good to vent and sometimes maybe an " i hear u - we looked god awful and we need to change things AGAIN" would be better than acting like it is the "doom - sayers" fault we lost and directing your anger at them instead of the organization.

punch it in · 09-24-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

it takes time, we're getting there people and we're getting in the right direction, if you pull the plug on the experiment now we go back to square 1.

I am not looking to pull any plugs. ( well maybe hasletts) and i understand that this current regime is cleaning up a huuuuuge mess. Im just asking the question - how long does shanallen have in your minds before you expect to be told "ok folks this year we have a shot at the playoffs?"

The Goat · 09-24-2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jdc65

It's doom and gloom because the team is unnecessarily exposing their future on a gimmick offense that has absolutely no chance for continued success. It's not building towards anything, there's nowhere to go with it. It's worse than play action because it takes too long, it's worse than rolling out because the Qb has to focus on 3 different things while also avoiding the inevitable pounding he will surely receive. Spreading the field is fine, but do it with receivers, formations, and well designed playcalls. Teach the kid something constructive.

There is nothing to setup with it but more option plays and misdirection. The defense could care less about misdirection if they can get a free shot at the Qb. Let em have 10 yards, we'll take out their Qb. It's a 1 time gimmick that only works because no one would expect such foolishness with your star player. Tebow is different, he is expendable plus he is freaking huge to take some punishment. Newton can run the read, but even he gets slammed. He is way bigger than Griffin, and that is already getting old for Carolina.

I can all but guarantee every team in the league will take notice of this, and will be laughing their a$$es off behind closed doors. The Buccaneers will be taking head shots if they try that crap next week. Now he is going to get hit even when he doesn't have the freaking ball. Can we expect the Swinging Gate with Griffin next?

They are supposed to be teaching him how to be an NFL quarterback. Yes, they can use his natural abilities, but his safety is paramount. It should be building blocks, one step leading to another. This is a gimmick and a desperation ploy because the offensive line is a joke, and Kyle has no excuses now for ineptitude. They might have drawn it up at halftime on the chalkboard because they had no answers. They clearly didn't practice it sufficiently because it looked so haphazard.

Why do you think Coughlin was so upset about the kneel down? Because he knows he has to keep his Qb healthy. It's coaching 101.

One of the better posts I've read here in a long time.

The Goat · 09-24-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Anyone who ripped Morgan last week for losing his cool and costing the Redskins, but is okay with Kyle Shanahan doing this really needs to take a long look in the mirror.

I mean, it was obvious last week Mike lost his cool, and Morgan along with a few other players followed suit. Morgan had lost it at the top of the 4th qtr.

punch it in · 09-24-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

One of the better posts I've read here in a long time.

Obviously you didnt read my F U Haslett! Post from yesterday. Lol

punch it in · 09-24-2012, 12:29 PM

Agreed by the way. That post is good. Scary too. True though and really depressing about what we are doing.

Mechanix544 · 09-24-2012, 12:31 PM

with this team, its always 2 or 3 years away. Here we are, 3 years after Shanahan, and we, again, are two years away, because what? Because we have a flippin stud of a quarterback that happens to be a rookie,so that gives them a pass for the next two years to lean on for being absolutely putrid on defense, and absolutely mediocre in every other aspect of the game that does not include RG3's brilliance? I'm just sick and tired of the excuses. The Lions went 0-16, 2-14, then two years later, they are in the playoffs. 49ers go 5-11, then the next year they are 13-3, and the next they are considered to be the best team in the league.

Point is, teams turn it around in a much shorter span than we do. Dolphins go 1-15. Next year they are 11-5 and win the division over the patriots. Saints go 3-13, next year they are 11-5 and win their division. Bengals go 4-12, and then win the division the next year over the AFC championship team Ravens with an 11-5 record. Falcons go from 4-12 to 11-5 in one season. When is it going to be that we just field a team that goes out, and plays the other team, and WINS? Its a football game. Every other team has mediocre talent, but the coaches overcome that, do their job, and find ways to compete. But with us, we always have to temper our expectations. Our situation is always SO much worse than any other of the 32 squads, that we need to chill out and remember, its gonna take 4 years to undo the damage. Its borderline ridiculous, and the fans of the Redskins deserve way better leadership than what has been presented the last 20 years.

Oh well, I guess there is always next year. Oh wait, next year and the year after that is a rebuilding year. I guess there is always 4 years from now. I'll have my fingers crossed.

PS - sorry for the rant

The Goat · 09-24-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

The game was over before kyle ever lost his cool. That being said i bet he doesnt do it again. Only the redskins go from first down at the 20 with 20 seconds left to third down and 45 with 7 seconds left and run one play. That is the real travesty here.

Hehe...awesome word

punch it in · 09-24-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Hehe...awesome word

Thank you. Haha.

The Goat · 09-24-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

We will get RG3 severly injured if our Tackles continue to play this bad. The planning at the Tackle position is the basically just crossing your finger.

Where is everyone who said RG3 will make the O-line look better?

They are focusing very heavily on the refs this season

Mechanix544 · 09-24-2012, 12:39 PM

Also, the reason we are in the games that we have competed in, in my opinion, is not a product of the playcalling, scheme or decisions made by the staff. Its all directly attributed to RG3's will, and by his performance alone. IMO, he is performing in the face of bad personnel, bad playcalls and just bad decision making, both on offense and defense.

I don't know how I feel about having Mike S. groom this young man into an NFL qb. It seems that Mike S isn't really doing him any favors with the playcalling and protections being called. If he is doing this good with the deck stacked against him, imagine if he didn't have those obstacles.

09-24-2012, 12:29 PM	#445
punch it in Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 41 Posts: 3,369	Agreed by the way. That post is good. Scary too. True though and really depressing about what we are doing. __________________ "Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate." Vince Lombardi

09-24-2012, 12:31 PM	#446
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,048	Re: Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction with this team, its always 2 or 3 years away. Here we are, 3 years after Shanahan, and we, again, are two years away, because what? Because we have a flippin stud of a quarterback that happens to be a rookie,so that gives them a pass for the next two years to lean on for being absolutely putrid on defense, and absolutely mediocre in every other aspect of the game that does not include RG3's brilliance? I'm just sick and tired of the excuses. The Lions went 0-16, 2-14, then two years later, they are in the playoffs. 49ers go 5-11, then the next year they are 13-3, and the next they are considered to be the best team in the league. Point is, teams turn it around in a much shorter span than we do. Dolphins go 1-15. Next year they are 11-5 and win the division over the patriots. Saints go 3-13, next year they are 11-5 and win their division. Bengals go 4-12, and then win the division the next year over the AFC championship team Ravens with an 11-5 record. Falcons go from 4-12 to 11-5 in one season. When is it going to be that we just field a team that goes out, and plays the other team, and WINS? Its a football game. Every other team has mediocre talent, but the coaches overcome that, do their job, and find ways to compete. But with us, we always have to temper our expectations. Our situation is always SO much worse than any other of the 32 squads, that we need to chill out and remember, its gonna take 4 years to undo the damage. Its borderline ridiculous, and the fans of the Redskins deserve way better leadership than what has been presented the last 20 years. Oh well, I guess there is always next year. Oh wait, next year and the year after that is a rebuilding year. I guess there is always 4 years from now. I'll have my fingers crossed. PS - sorry for the rant __________________ Ain't Nothin Like a Good B Western. YEEHAW

09-24-2012, 12:39 PM	#450
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,048	Re: Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction Also, the reason we are in the games that we have competed in, in my opinion, is not a product of the playcalling, scheme or decisions made by the staff. Its all directly attributed to RG3's will, and by his performance alone. IMO, he is performing in the face of bad personnel, bad playcalls and just bad decision making, both on offense and defense. I don't know how I feel about having Mike S. groom this young man into an NFL qb. It seems that Mike S isn't really doing him any favors with the playcalling and protections being called. If he is doing this good with the deck stacked against him, imagine if he didn't have those obstacles. __________________ Ain't Nothin Like a Good B Western. YEEHAW

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