Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction

hooskins

I'm all for different types of offense. As long as he isn't taking a consistent beating. Spread 5 wide and let him run around. Run the option too. mix it up and be mindful that option plays and designed runs are putting the QB on a platter.

I think there is a fine line between creativity and stupidity. If RG3 is consistently taking 10+ runs per game and nearly 20 hits per game, I think the playcalling is leaning towards the latter. Even if your goal is short term success, these sorts of plays put your greatest playmaker (as you've said) at risk.

You draft RG3 because of his skill set. But you want him to have the chance to showcase those skills for 16 games.

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JoeRedskin

Yes. Please, I am in need of education. You, and others with a similar need to educate, are clearly one step away from an NFL coaching job so arguments counter to your assumptions must simply be made by the blind and uninformed. Please - share your particular brand of brilliance.

You left out Point 3: In it's current state, the Skins O-Line cannot provide consistent protection for a 7 step drop and would be troubled even in a 5 step drop scheme. In a traditional offense, RGIII would be exposed to brutal blind side hits every time he drops back to pass. Given the state of our line, our running game would be ineffective and, as such, play action would have a limited ability to slow down the rush. Without the ability to manufacture points through the option, we would be playing from behind often allowing opposing D's to pin back their ears against our already overmatched line. Even using his athleticism to create time, traditional scrambling would expose him to hits by LB's or DB's w/ a running head start at him and/or hits similar to the ones taken while running the designed option.

Hi Vinny! Yup, overriding the coach's authority can lead to nothing but long term success for players.

Because during a traditional pass play, w/out the option, the entire DL is not "trying to crush him, to punish him as much as they possibly can[.]" Insanity.

The option has one DL assigned hit the QB. True enough - at the same time, the hit generally can be seen coming and RGII has been very good about bracing for such hits. Additionally, the option has been successful in (1) manufacturing points; (2) slowing down the rush in both passing off the option and in the traditional drop backs; and (3) limiting the number of tacklers hitting RGIII on any running play or scramble b/c, just as they must account for RGIII, given his ability to read the entire field, the defenders cannot sell out to converge on him.

I am not a coach, I am Joe schmoe watching an offense that doesn't work like a traditional drop back/play action passing game. At the same time, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the hits RGIII is exposed to are different than the hits he would be exposed to in a traditional offense.

It also doesn't take a rocket scientist to see RGIII is comfortable in the offense and adapting to NFL speed within it. As opposed to being pounded into the dirt time and time again in a drop back offense, and gaining neither confidence or adapting to the violence, RGIII is getting to play the game he is used to, taking hits in a manner he is accustomed to. To many young QB's get gun-shy, start getting happy feet, lose their confidence and have their careers cut-short by being forced playing both an unfamiliar offense on a bad team where they get hit every drop back. Once they start hearing feet, most never recover. Ever.

To poor uneducated me, the offensive design makes the best use of our currently configured O-line and creates an opportunity for RGIII to succeed now and in the future. You don't. I completely understand your points just as I have completely understood others with similar positions ... no need to educate me further. I understand the risks created by this offense and disagree that, without entirely writing off this season, they are greater than those incurred by inserting RGIII into a traditional NFL offense.

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CrustyRedskin

Im not much on stats but rather the product on the field, congratulations you've scored points vs Saints (22D), Rams(31D) and Cinci (32D). You are what your record says you are. 1-2 .

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The Goat

Tana is still our best WR before the catch i.e. creating space. They are definitely trying to work the other guys though.

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JoeRedskin

And last year we scored:
0 v. Bills (30D)
13 v. Panthers (27D)
17 v. Rams (26D)

All losses.

We are 1-2, one game out of the lead in our division and two games behind the team with the best record in the NFL.

If you don't see the improvement in and potential wins due to point production, fine.

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aircoryell

The original statement you answered "empty stats" to was about the offense. You're either suggesting the offense is to fault for the last two losses or who the opponent is, or you've completely changed your argument.

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CRedskinsRule

but but last year we were 3 - 0.

CrustyRedskin

I apologize if it seemed i was singling out the O for the last two, it has by far been a team effort. Skins havnt looked good the last two weeks, team discipline, oline, defense, secondary special teams, pick one. Could care less about stats Skins are 1-2.

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The Goat

Ohhhh snap!

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Lotus

You've changed an argument about the offense only into an argument which includes defense and special teams. But this particular discussion is about the offense alone.

I thought that the offense started much too slowly against Cinci. Yet we still lead the NFL in scoring and are doing quite well scoring points even if we leave out defensive scores.

I agree with those folks who are excited about the offense. We have an offense which is fun to watch. When in the heck have we been in a position to say that? IMO appreciation of our current team begins with appreciation for having an offense which makes people around the NFL world talk in a good way.

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Jordan Shipley Whiteskin

Hi . This is Jordan Shipley.

Being from Texas I saw plenty of RGIII at Baylor and I can tell you that he's a bum.

I signed with Tampa as soon as I saw the Redskins were on the schedule.

Have you guys seen me return kicks lately ? ....I'm a beast . I might have muffed a kick last week but don't let that fool you . I want my film to look bad so I can own the Redskins .

SmootSmack

Attention all new Bucs fans...this thread has nothing to do with you guys, so save it for the Bucs thread when we talk about the upcoming game

Also, tell us what board you're coming from so we can participate there as well

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Remember in D'Boyz prediction thread, I said only people who come here talking trash deserve trash talked back. Yeahhhh. There's example a.

But not in this thread.

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