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Old 02-11-2013, 12:34 PM   #541
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Cobb wasnt a diamond in the rough, thats utter nonsense. He wasnt a project. He was best player available on Green Bay's board. "Best player available crowd" cant bitch when it happens.

Are you asking if there was Defense player or Oline pick in the 3rd round or beyond in the 2011 that would have produced a Superbowl victory by now?

Redraft the 2011 class, Randal Cobb is picked in the top 10 easily.

Cobb is just an example of cant miss weapon. Is there one this year? I dont know.
I doubt that. Would he be a first round pick? Absolutely, but who is he replacing in the top 10? Because Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick, JJ Watt, Ryan Kerrigan, and possibly Robert Quinn who werent drafted in the top 10 would still be taken over him. By the way, no one is a can't miss weapon.
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:40 PM   #542
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No way I'd consider trading Cousins at this point.

Harvin is electric but he definitely has durability issues.
Not to mention the deeper concern for me, he is a massive head case (and I don't mean his migraines). He has a well reported history of issues dating all the way back to high school. He punched a college coach. Now he blows up at Leslie Fraiser of all people? Not exactly a guy that exacts fits of rage in my opinion. I think this guy definitely just handcuffed himself from ever getting a contract worthy of the performance he can produce on the field. He is officially in the Brandon Marshall category.
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Old 02-11-2013, 01:00 PM   #543
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New England will somehow get him anyway.
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New England will somehow get him anyway.
They seem to take everyone's projects.
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Old 02-11-2013, 02:55 PM   #545
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Nick Barnett released by the Bills per Schefter. Has 3-4 experience playing in Green Bay, could be some good depth, though I don't know how good he has been and whatnot. His 2012 stats: 112 tackles, 2 sacks, and 3 FF.
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Nick Barnett released by the Bills per Schefter. Has 3-4 experience playing in Green Bay, could be some good depth, though I don't know how good he has been and whatnot. His 2012 stats: 112 tackles, 2 sacks, and 3 FF.
Is the safety they released decent?
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Is the safety they released decent?
The safety Wilson according to Rotoworld:

Pro Football Focus graded Wilson as the No. 8 safety in the entire league in 2012, but the new Bills coaching staff obviously didn't regard him as highly. Wilson turns 32 this offseason. He can still cover and fills hard in run support, so he should have a good chance to land on his feet.
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I think we sign those two, and call it a day !
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according to that list, 16 teams (plus us with penalty) are at or over 120M. There will be a lot of restructuring and surprise cuts, the question is who will take advantage of it. This is where the NFLPA hurt themselves by agreeing to our penalty. It's pretty much a guarantee we would use the opportunity to sign several players, probably to nice contracts, certainly market level contracts, as opposed to the Cincinatti, Indianapolis, Cleveland's of the NFL. Granted it's not a lot, and they were going for the throat, but we would have easily used that cap space on some of the guys who the stale cap will have hurt.
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a lot of teams in much worse shape than the Skins that's for sure
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After looking at this, I think we got a huge advantage in the uncapped year. And Dan saved 36 million dollars. We still dont look that bad. Look at those cheap bastard Bengals.
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Mike Max Says Vikings Will Try To Trade Percy Harvin CBS Minnesota

Not sure how valid this is, but wouldn't this be interesting...
I think this organization is finally past making these types of silly moves. I'd pass on Harvin all together.
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I think this organization is finally past making these types of silly moves. I'd pass on Harvin all together.
Exactly. Read my post about it above...
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Cobb wasnt a diamond in the rough, thats utter nonsense. He wasnt a project. He was best player available on Green Bay's board. "Best player available crowd" cant bitch when it happens.

Are you asking if there was Defense player or Oline pick in the 3rd round or beyond in the 2011 that would have produced a Superbowl victory by now?

Redraft the 2011 class, Randal Cobb is picked in the top 10 easily.

Cobb is just an example of cant miss weapon. Is there one this year? I dont know.
I wasnt calling cobb a diamond in the rough. I was making an educated (or uneducated -lol) guess that if the skins go after a wr in the draft it will be in the later rounds, hence diamond in the rough. I was not referring to Cobb in the first part of my post but rather just a wr in general. As far as Cobb i never said he wasnt worthy of a top ten pick, (although i agree with Quake that he probably wouldnt be if it was done again) just that i think they would be better served with an upgrade at the oline or on defense because of their current high powered offense - which was high powered long before cobb got there. Im not sure there is somebody in that draft that fits the bill? Again i was just trying to make the point that there were other areas of need besides wr not so much an opinion about Cobb. Im more of a believer in drafting for need than best player available, unless of course it is a complete and utter no brainer, but than its always "why is that guy still on the board"? So....
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