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Old 02-13-2013, 08:10 AM   #571
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People in here rolling with WR like they proved something. They haven't proven a thing except for Garçon. If there's a chance to get an Elite talent with RG3 you do it. You don't settle with just role players. We're not going win like that. I don't care about this past year stats. If you don't get better you get worst. Can anyone on this team other than RG3 that really pumps fear into the defense? Harvin does that. We would make everybody on offense job easier. So if we could get him for a 3rd and 5th we better do it.
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Well of course you plug holes when you see immediate problems...Safety, Corner, Tackle, but you dont look away from other areas that can be improved...DLine depth, WR depth, RB depth. This is how you end up with Logan Paulesons, Rob Jackson and most important, Alfred Morris. These guys were pivotal in our playoff run. Without these 3 guys, sorry we dont make the playoffs.

Were we talking about RB position last offseason as a problem? Nope


To me, the Vinny, old thinking FO approach was not only big ticket free agents, but a knee jerk decisions and a lack of planning in every area of the football team.

Yes, fix the immediate problems at RT and Safety, but dont lose focus in other areas and just be satisfied with what we got. Dont be surprised at with more young guys at WR, TE and RB. Thats how you improve your team.
Yea and we got Morris and Jackson late in the draft. So - again- if we find a diamond in the rough at wr in the later rounds that is great. It certainly isnt our priority. I agree whole heartedly there is always room for improvement everywhere, and i certainly dont think our wr's are tops in the league. Although getting Davis back is huge. We should draft for more glaring needs early though.
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[QUOTE=Chico23231;994073]Well of course you plug holes when you see immediate problems...Safety, Corner, Tackle, but you dont look away from other areas that can be improved...DLine depth, WR depth, RB depth. This is how you end up with Logan Paulesons, Rob Jackson and most important, Alfred Morris. These guys were pivotal in our playoff run. Without these 3 guys, sorry we dont make the playoffs.

Were we talking about RB position last offseason as a problem? Nope


To me, the Vinny, old thinking FO approach was not only big ticket free agents, but a knee jerk decisions and a lack of planning in every area of the football team.

Yes, fix the immediate problems at RT and Safety, but dont lose focus in other areas and just be satisfied with what we got. Dont be surprised at with more young guys at WR, TE and RB. Thats how you improve your team.[/QUOTE]

Great point. Depth is essential to winning in this league. But I'm not the least bit concerned about the current management's ability to build a deep roster. Finally, we have people in the FO who know what they're doing.
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Well of course you plug holes when you see immediate problems...Safety, Corner, Tackle, but you dont look away from other areas that can be improved...DLine depth, WR depth, RB depth. This is how you end up with Logan Paulesons, Rob Jackson and most important, Alfred Morris. These guys were pivotal in our playoff run. Without these 3 guys, sorry we dont make the playoffs.

Were we talking about RB position last offseason as a problem? Nope


To me, the Vinny, old thinking FO approach was not only big ticket free agents, but a knee jerk decisions and a lack of planning in every area of the football team.

Yes, fix the immediate problems at RT and Safety, but dont lose focus in other areas and just be satisfied with what we got. Dont be surprised at with more young guys at WR, TE and RB. Thats how you improve your team.[/QUOTE]

Great point. Depth is essential to winning in this league. But I'm not the least bit concerned about the current management's ability to build a deep roster. Finally, we have people in the FO who know what they're doing.
Depth is the reason we made the playoffs...or diamonds in the rough or i guess any draft pick after the 2nd round. depth=diamonds in the rough=drafts picks after the 2nd round...i guess there the samething. because when i say top 10 pick and you would go at 11 even though you may go at 9...thats a major difference here. i guess i easily confuse.
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Again, outside of QB & RB and maybe OLB (depending on how the R.Jackson issue resolves), if there is a top talent in the 2nd round that BA & MS have rated head and shoulders above everyone else, I would hope they take him.

Unless someone stands out, however, you take the best athelete available in your area of need with your 2nd and 3rd and then straight up BAA the rest of the way down.
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People in here rolling with WR like they proved something. They haven't proven a thing except for Garçon. If there's a chance to get an Elite talent with RG3 you do it. You don't settle with just role players. We're not going win like that. I don't care about this past year stats. If you don't get better you get worst. Can anyone on this team other than RG3 that really pumps fear into the defense? Harvin does that. We would make everybody on offense job easier. So if we could get him for a 3rd and 5th we better do it.
Ok so I understand what your saying, but that right there is the patriots philosophy; make our already good offense, great or unstoppable but don't worry about our defense which is the real team problem.

I said last year that our offense was Super Bowl caliber. It was our defense which wasn't. Lets worry about defense before we get to the WR position which is at the bottom of my list of needs. And Harvin is an injury prone head case who wants lots of money which we don't have.
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Ok so I understand what your saying, but that right there is the patriots philosophy; make our already good offense, great or unstoppable but don't worry about our defense which is the real team problem.

I said last year that our offense was Super Bowl caliber. It was our defense which wasn't. Lets worry about defense before we get to the WR position which is at the bottom of my list of needs. And Harvin is an injury prone head case who wants lots of money which we don't have.
Patriots three first picks were on defense, and the year before they targeted defensive backs and before that they focused on defense. They traded for Talib this past year too. If you have a chance to improve either side of the ball with depth or key free agent signings that won't cost the team much you do it. Like I always say best player available vs reaching for a need
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Ok so I understand what your saying, but that right there is the patriots philosophy; make our already good offense, great or unstoppable but don't worry about our defense which is the real team problem.

I said last year that our offense was Super Bowl caliber. It was our defense which wasn't. Lets worry about defense before we get to the WR position which is at the bottom of my list of needs. And Harvin is an injury prone head case who wants lots of money which we don't have.
We're putting the cart before the horse talking about draft strategy prior to seeing what we're able to do in Free Agency.

What if we're able to sign new starters at FS and Right OT in Free Agency? The BPA draft philosophy makes a lot more sense then, doesn't it?
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Patriots three first picks were on defense, and the year before they targeted defensive backs and before that they focused on defense. They traded for Talib this past year too. If you have a chance to improve either side of the ball with depth or key free agent signings that won't cost the team much you do it. Like I always say best player available vs reaching for a need
The Pats traded for Talib b/c they've misfired with just about every single secondary player they've picked in the draft. Of course that doesn't affect them significantly b/c they can outscore teams with their potent offense.
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Patriots three first picks were on defense, and the year before they targeted defensive backs and before that they focused on defense. They traded for Talib this past year too. If you have a chance to improve either side of the ball with depth or key free agent signings that won't cost the team much you do it. Like I always say best player available vs reaching for a need
And their defense still is on the bad side aka not top 16/half of the league. They're getting guys but not game changers like what they have on offense. Talib is one and Jones could be one healthy. But they still struggle on defense Bill.
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We're putting the cart before the horse talking about draft strategy prior to seeing what we're able to do in Free Agency.

What if we're able to sign new starters at FS and Right OT in Free Agency? The BPA draft philosophy makes a lot more sense then, doesn't it?
Oh yeah definitely. But no matter who you get in FA you should still draft your needs even the ones you had before FA. Why?
Take tanard Jackson for example. We need a FS, we sign him. We don't draft a FS in the draft (we also signed Madoodoo Williams to play either safety spot) tanard gets suspended and Williams is stuck at FS and we suck at that position all year.

I could also use the archuletta example too but you all already know about that.
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Oh yeah definitely. But no matter who you get in FA you should still draft your needs even the ones you had before FA. Why?
Take tanard Jackson for example. We need a FS, we sign him. We don't draft a FS in the draft (we also signed Madoodoo Williams to play either safety spot) tanard gets suspended and Williams is stuck at FS and we suck at that position all year.

I could also use the archuletta example too but you all already know about that.
If the Redskins get a free safety in free agency, then it will definitely be Jarius Byrd from Buffalo. If the Redskins draft a free safety, then it will more than likely be Phillip Thomas from Fresno State. I think the Redskins will keep Madieu Williams for depth. Tanard Jackson is questionable after serving a year suspension(we could have really used him last season). Brandon Meriweather hopefully will get healthy and perform like he did in the first Philly game.
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Oh yeah definitely. But no matter who you get in FA you should still draft your needs even the ones you had before FA. Why?
Take tanard Jackson for example. We need a FS, we sign him. We don't draft a FS in the draft (we also signed Madoodoo Williams to play either safety spot) tanard gets suspended and Williams is stuck at FS and we suck at that position all year.

I could also use the archuletta example too but you all already know about that.
You make a very good point for why drafting for needs makes sense. Plus, this draft class is well-stocked with good safety and CB talent, so why not?
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Redskins sign NT Ron Brace ..... A former New England 2 me rounder
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