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Old 02-14-2013, 11:56 AM   #586
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And their defense still is on the bad side aka not top 16/half of the league. They're getting guys but not game changers like what they have on offense. Talib is one and Jones could be one healthy. But they still struggle on defense Bill.
I didn't say their defense is good, I just said they are addressing the needs, which you stated before they were not and just trying to improve their offense.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:03 PM   #587
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Oh yeah definitely. But no matter who you get in FA you should still draft your needs even the ones you had before FA. Why?
Take tanard Jackson for example. We need a FS, we sign him. We don't draft a FS in the draft (we also signed Madoodoo Williams to play either safety spot) tanard gets suspended and Williams is stuck at FS and we suck at that position all year.

I could also use the archuletta example too but you all already know about that.
Luckily the Redskins don't draft based on need anymore, they draft like the Ravens and past superbowl winners...
Plus what position is not in need? What position can the skins not improve on besides maybe QB? Redskins "needs" are DLine, Olinemen, linebackers, corners, safeties, tight end, and wide receiver. The skins can improve on all these positions. Luckily they have been drafting based on who the best player and not which player fills the biggest need recently and its been working out great,

Alfred Morris, Leribeus, Cousins, Crawford, even Kerrigan to name a few.
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I didn't say their defense is good, I just said they are addressing the needs, which you stated before they were not and just trying to improve their offense.
Yeah but their way of addressing needs is stupidity, like forgetting about background checks on players for example.

Take Dennard and Talib for example. Both are headcases off the field. Talib is injury prone. What happend? Their good for them, but now Dennard is looking at 5 years in prison for punching a cop, and Talib missed almost as many games as he played in NE with hip and hamstring problems.

In the draft Belichick took tavon wilson in the 2nd round, a guy whom all the other scouts and analysts had as a 6-7th rounder.

When they address need, its been a miss for them defensively. Offensively it hasn't.
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Redskins sign NT Ron Brace ..... A former New England 2 me rounder
I saw that.....
Whats the dirt on this guy?
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Yeah but their way of addressing needs is stupidity, like forgetting about background checks on players for example.

Take Dennard and Talib for example. Both are headcases off the field. Talib is injury prone. What happend? Their good for them, but now Dennard is looking at 5 years in prison for punching a cop, and Talib missed almost as many games as he played in NE with hip and hamstring problems.

In the draft Belichick took tavon wilson in the 2nd round, a guy whom all the other scouts and analysts had as a 6-7th rounder.

When they address need, its been a miss for them defensively. Offensively it hasn't.
They also said that about Tom Brady, Terrelle Davis, Alfred Morris, Adrian Foster, and a whole lot of others. No one now is claiming he should have gone in the 6th or 7th. He still has flaws, mainly struggling with play action and getting deep off of it, but played decent for them this year. He still has plenty of upside to continue to progress, and has the ability to play almost every secondary position.

It might be comparing apples to oranges since they play different positions. But do you want Bobbie Massie in the first, as analysts had him for the draft, or Tavon Wilson in the second? Massie was terrible this year, and had trouble getting a starting job in Arizona with their horrible O-line.

Listening to draft analysts is about as good at times as listening to Vinny act like he understands the draft.
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Yeah but their way of addressing needs is stupidity, like forgetting about background checks on players for example.

Take Dennard and Talib for example. Both are headcases off the field. Talib is injury prone. What happend? Their good for them, but now Dennard is looking at 5 years in prison for punching a cop, and Talib missed almost as many games as he played in NE with hip and hamstring problems.

In the draft Belichick took tavon wilson in the 2nd round, a guy whom all the other scouts and analysts had as a 6-7th rounder.

When they address need, its been a miss for them defensively. Offensively it hasn't.
I did not say they were doing a good job, I just said they are attempting to improve their defense, now what they are doing is drafting/signing based on need for defense, which not that surprisingly is not working for them. You stated they were not "worried about their defense" when I am telling you they obviously are but the way they are approaching it obviously is not working. Hopefully the skins take note and don't try to make moves based on needs like the Patriots.
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They also said that about Tom Brady, Terrelle Davis, Alfred Morris, Adrian Foster, and a whole lot of others. No one now is claiming he should have gone in the 6th or 7th. He still has flaws, mainly struggling with play action and getting deep off of it, but played decent for them this year. He still has plenty of upside to continue to progress, and has the ability to play almost every secondary position.

It might be comparing apples to oranges since they play different positions. But do you want Bobbie Massie in the first, as analysts had him for the draft, or Tavon Wilson in the second? Massie was terrible this year, and had trouble getting a starting job in Arizona with their horrible O-line.

Listening to draft analysts is about as good at times as listening to Vinny act like he understands the draft.
Those guys were drafted late, like Tavon Wilson should have been.

And Massie or wilson? Neither, cause they are both busts IMO.
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Those guys were drafted late, like Tavon Wilson should have been.

And Massie or wilson? Neither, cause they are both busts IMO.
There was an analyst one time that said the same thing about Tom Brady, he should have been drafted late or not at all. Had anyone picked up Brady in round 2, they would have been criticized beyond belief. But it still would have been a good move to do so.

My point being, you are basing the move not based on Tavon Wilson's play, but what the draft analysts said prior to him ever playing a down in the NFL. The same ones who said Tom Brady doesnt deserve to be in the NFL. He actually played fairly well this year for a rookie on a defense that wasnt that good altogether, and is a highly versatile player to boot. Im not saying he is the next Ronnie Lott, but he outplayed our entire secondary when he was on the field.
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I'm happy with the Brace signing. We could use a blob as competition for the NT spot.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:13 PM   #596
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Low franchise tag may shrink safety market - AFC South Blog - ESPN

Interesting article, There may not be many free agent safeties worth looking at.
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There was an analyst one time that said the same thing about Tom Brady, he should have been drafted late or not at all. Had anyone picked up Brady in round 2, they would have been criticized beyond belief. But it still would have been a good move to do so.

My point being, you are basing the move not based on Tavon Wilson's play, but what the draft analysts said prior to him ever playing a down in the NFL. The same ones who said Tom Brady doesnt deserve to be in the NFL. He actually played fairly well this year for a rookie on a defense that wasnt that good altogether, and is a highly versatile player to boot. Im not saying he is the next Ronnie Lott, but he outplayed our entire secondary when he was on the field.
Ahh ok, I see what you're saying now. Time will tell.
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Chris Baker might leave so we had to look at what else was out there. I just want to know the reason why the Patriots cut this guy. A 2nd round pick? Bruce Allen probably knows a lot about this kid and wanted to nab him. Hopefully he can contribute.
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Low franchise tag may shrink safety market - AFC South Blog - ESPN

Interesting article, There may not be many free agent safeties worth looking at.
Heard on the radio this morning Miami was in process of trying to resign Chris Clements
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Chris Baker might leave so we had to look at what else was out there. I just want to know the reason why the Patriots cut this guy. A 2nd round pick? Bruce Allen probably knows a lot about this kid and wanted to nab him. Hopefully he can contribute.
Probably because he can't play.
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