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Old 03-01-2013, 03:27 PM   #736
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I just didn't see anyone that really lit my fire that we would be able to afford I like the draft route better but just reluctant to start a corner his first year other then nickel unless he's top tier which I doubt we can get out hands on. idk I just think keeping hall cheaper around for 1 more year or so would be good for us until we get a better option. just my thinking, we will see
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:33 PM   #737
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I just didn't see anyone that really lit my fire that we would be able to afford
Look a little harder, next time.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:37 PM   #738
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You really think the market for corners is that bare?

Cutting him saves us about $8 and that move alone would put us under the cap by about $4M.
I can't see how we can justify paying him more than Josh. 3mil a year max (including any signing bonus) is about all I think could be justified. Here are some moves I could see happening in the order I'd like to see them happen.

Release or restructure Hall: savings: 5-8 mil.
Release or Restructure Moss. Love the guy, but more than 3 mil for a slot guy seems high: savings: 3-4 mil
Retire Fletcher: savings: 4 mil.
Restructure Trent Williams: savings 2-3 mil
Release Carriker: savings: 3 mil

Savings: 17-22 mil

I think we can afford to fill the holes made by the cuts with a few guys that will be on the market. Maybe someone could help with who we could sign to make the team better and fill these holes if we had 17 mil to spend.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:43 PM   #739
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:47 PM   #740
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So if we release Hall, please tell me who is going to step up and take his place as interceptions leader.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:58 PM   #741
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So if we release Hall, please tell me who is going to step up and take his place as interceptions leader.
There is a good chance that someone is going to lead the Redskins in interceptions next year.
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So if we release Hall, please tell me who is going to step up and take his place as interceptions leader.
i just lol'ed at work, thanks
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:00 PM   #743
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There is a good chance that someone is going to lead the Redskins in interceptions next year.
You read my mind, Tripp.

There is also a good chance that someone will lead the team in sacks, tackles, fumbles recovered, or passes defensed. Wonders never cease.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:26 PM   #744
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Goodbye jarius Byrd... At least for a year
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:32 PM   #745
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I guess the bar has been set awfully low if people think we can't find a better corner out there than Hall.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:33 PM   #746
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London Fletcher lead the Redskins in interceptions last season.
So.....wtf....
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:54 PM   #747
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I'm all for cutting Hall, however I do see why people want to keep him being that theres not many starting caliber CBs out there.

People have thrown out the names Greg Toler and Leodis McKelvin, but a lot of these CBs in the draft are as good or better than those guys.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:43 PM   #748
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I think cutting Hall is probably a little more complicated than we think. If we test the FA market to replace Hall, at what cost does that happen vs a restructured Hall deal? If we draft a rookie, unless he's a stud, it's hard to imagine he'll come in an adjust and not skip a beat.

More importantly, who's behind Hall today, currently on the roster, that can step in and start? Deangelo played a lot of snaps last year and probably had his best game shutting down Dez Bryant in week 17. I just don't think it's a no brainer to cut him and move on like some are suggesting. Flaws and all, he's a seasoned vet and knows the system very well.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:45 PM   #749
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I also happen to think Carriker will be a cap casualty.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:48 PM   #750
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It's not complicated. If we release Hall, we have a hole in the roster that needs to be addressed, and about $8 million more to use. If we restructure Hall (he agrees to a pay cut), we have the same hole, but significantly less money to address it with. This is not a brain teaser.
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