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Old 03-04-2013, 09:02 PM   #796
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Yeah this sounds like a great idea. We will end up with Madeu Williams, Stepfan Hyer, and Fred smoot.
When a specific position is strong in the draft, usually there are cuts of some pretty good players at those positions. They might not happen until TC, but they will most likely happen. Never rush to overpay a vet in FA when the position is strong in the draft unless that one vet is a perfect fit/must have for your team.

If you think the only RT's and safeties that are going to be decent FA's are already on the market, then you are mistaken. I expect enough good safeties to be cut heading into or out of TC that M. Williams will be an after thought even if we dont look immediately in FA for a safety. Thrown in that the skins were a playoff team last year, and some of those last minute cuts will take the a very low salary to be given a chance at a starting job and a trip to the playoffs. That wasnt something we could look forward to in the past.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:43 PM   #797
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Yeah this sounds like a great idea. We will end up with Madeu Williams, Stepfan Hyer, and Fred smoot.
You must've put a lot of thought into this post, considering that you misspelled 2 of these players' names(Stepfan???), only listed former (signed) redskins players- and one who hasn't played since 2009. What was the purpose of this post? ... to try to provide the most minimum effort into a reply???
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:06 PM   #798
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You must've put a lot of thought into this post, considering that you misspelled 2 of these players' names(Stepfan???), only listed former (signed) redskins players- and one who hasn't played since 2009. What was the purpose of this post? ... to try to provide the most minimum effort into a reply???
Thats the thing, they will be guys that you wont even know how to spell their names. What you really meant is wait until the dust settles and then sign guys like Cedric Griffin a week or two into free agency. If you wait till after the draft you will have to get lucky. Not how you want to run your team. The Redskins will make a move for guys like Greg Toler, Keenan Lewis, and Chris Clemons. They are not as strapped as you think.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:46 PM   #799
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Schefter saying that goldson isn't coming back to San Fran. If they're getting rid of him, then there must be something wrong with him/ he's a system player.
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Thats the thing, they will be guys that you wont even know how to spell their names. What you really meant is wait until the dust settles and then sign guys like Cedric Griffin a week or two into free agency. If you wait till after the draft you will have to get lucky. Not how you want to run your team. The Redskins will make a move for guys like Greg Toler, Keenan Lewis, and Chris Clemons. They are not as strapped as you think.
The redskins ARE cap-strapped. They are around 3 million over and haven't even re-signed any of their own several free-agents yet. And on top of that they need to sign their draft picks. There's been a number of $13 million thrown out there that they need to free up by restructuring existing contracts or by cuts - just to achieve this.

All of this before even thinking about signing free agents that are coming from other teams. So that's $13 million plus the cap-hit this year for any additional free agents that they would want to sign.
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The redskins ARE cap-strapped. They are around 3 million over and haven't even re-signed any of their own several free-agents yet. And on top of that they need to sign their draft picks. There's been a number of $13 million thrown out there that they need to free up by restructuring existing contracts or by cuts - just to achieve this.

All of this before even thinking about signing free agents that are coming from other teams. So that's $13 million plus the cap-hit this year for any additional free agents that they would want to sign.
Yes, I know their cap situation well. They will sign at least one expensive free agent. Along with Fred Davis and Lorenzo Alexander. Everyone forgets how the Redskins Manipulated the cap years.they can sign anyone abd make the cap number this year the league minimum.
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Yes, I know their cap situation well. They will sign at least one expensive free agent. Along with Fred Davis and Lorenzo Alexander. Everyone forgets how the Redskins Manipulated the cap years.they can sign anyone abd make the cap number this year the league minimum.
Like the previous 2 years- at least one major unrestricted free agent will not be re-signed - more than likely Fred Davis - especially if the redskins sign another team's free agent.

This year is also different than previous years because there a number of key free agents that the redskins might lose.
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Old 03-05-2013, 04:20 AM   #803
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Nfl.com show the redskins as around 4 million under the cap. We still have a week before free agency . As for the free agents we have young, paulsen and jackson , all of who could recieve tenders , - and they could all be at the lower level given we get an opportinty to match ...
Davis is looking at a 1 year 2 million type deal - alot of teams will be wary of him because of him comming off an injury and with the 2011 suspension ..
I think we are going to see some cuts potentially but more likley some restructures and we are in better shape than is widly reported
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Nfl.com show the redskins as around 4 million under the cap. We still have a week before free agency . As for the free agents we have young, paulsen and jackson , all of who could recieve tenders , - and they could all be at the lower level given we get an opportinty to match ...
Davis is looking at a 1 year 2 million type deal - alot of teams will be wary of him because of him comming off an injury and with the 2011 suspension ..
I think we are going to see some cuts potentially but more likley some restructures and we are in better shape than is widly reported
Do you have a link cuz I don't see that cap number anywhere?
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We're about $4M over the cap right now, over as in we're in the red.

We're going to be tight against the cap but a few moves can free up a lot of room pretty quickly.
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For the first time in a longgg time I really feel satisfied when I take a look at our team and free agency. I think our main focus should be on retaining our young promising players (D Young, Pauleson, Jackson, Fred Davis) and keep our focus more on the draft, than added free agents. I think adding a vetern Tackle, a young Corner, maybe a 3rd down RB/KR, etc. We are in good shape even with the penalty, which maybe a blessing in disguise i.e. finally having to cut older players who time is to move on Hall, Moss, Carriker, and Fletch.

Lets continue to roll with the draft/youth movement, look how far we have come.
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Yes, I know their cap situation well. They will sign at least one expensive free agent. Along with Fred Davis and Lorenzo Alexander. Everyone forgets how the Redskins Manipulated the cap years.they can sign anyone abd make the cap number this year the league minimum.
I for one hope they don't sign one expensive FA.

Davis will most likely walk.

R Jackson and Zo need to be re-signed.

Furthermore I don't think people forget how the Redskins manipulated the cap. I think they remember how we cotinued to re-structure aging vets, adding years and pushing guaranteed money onto the following season. Such cap savvy moves forced the Skins to have to let go of a guy like Pierce, in favor of a guy like Lemar Marshall. Not moves we should be modeling, in my opinion.
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Schefter saying that goldson isn't coming back to San Fran. If they're getting rid of him, then there must be something wrong with him/ he's a system player.
Sirius XM NFL Radio was breaking him down the other day. Didn't seem to high on him. Basically said Whitner was a better player and the niners probably didn't value Goldson for what it would take to sign him. They painted a picture of him being a thumper that could crash down in the box and clean up a tackle or jump on a pile and has a propensity to bite on the pump or double move and get burned. I don't know too much about the 49ers, but if this is accurate I wouldn't want to bring him in here. Seems like another D Hall liability which isn't what we need.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:58 PM   #810
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Sirius XM NFL Radio was breaking him down the other day. Didn't seem to high on him. Basically said Whitner was a better player and the niners probably didn't value Goldson for what it would take to sign him. They painted a picture of him being a thumper that could crash down in the box and clean up a tackle or jump on a pile and has a propensity to bite on the pump or double move and get burned. I don't know too much about the 49ers, but if this is accurate I wouldn't want to bring him in here. Seems like another D Hall liability which isn't what we need.
This draft is packed with secondary talent so I say we address our needs in April.
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