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Old 03-07-2013, 10:51 AM   #841
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Well my point is, why would they pay Albert 10 million to play right tackle, when they could just let Winston play if he was so good. I never saw him play, but seems to me he may not be that good. Although, Andy Ried likes big fat maulers on his offensive line. I would rather the Redskins spend money on Chris Clemons, and one of the good corners out there and draft a right tackle at 51.
There is your answer right there. Winston excels in the ZBS when it comes to run blocking. I was about to say that Andy Reid is against the ZBS, but that is factually incorrect. Andy Reid is against running the ball.

Btw, am I the only one who believes that Andy Reid is going to go down with the sinking ship because his best player is a RB. Charles better love screen passes, because he wont rush that much this year unless Reid learned that having a running game is actually a good thing. And its difficult to have a good running game when the guy calling the plays judges success not on wins and losses, but whether his QB passes it 50 times a game.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:57 AM   #842
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:59 AM   #843
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Skinzman, you say Charles is their best player. Are you forgetting about Bowe and Alex Smith? Smith is probably the most underrated QB in the history of the game. The Chiefs definitely upped the 49ers on that trade.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:09 AM   #844
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Skinzman, you say Charles is their best player. Are you forgetting about Bowe and Alex Smith? Smith is probably the most underrated QB in the history of the game. The Chiefs definitely upped the 49ers on that trade.
Ummmmm NO, everything about that statement is false. And Jamaal Charles is the Chiefs best player.
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J. Charles will do fine in Andy's system. He is not a pounder who gets the majority of his yards between the tackles. He is more of a breakaway threat and Reid's system will let him operate in space more. I think - if he remains healthy - Charles is in for a big year next season.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:25 AM   #846
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Skinzman, you say Charles is their best player. Are you forgetting about Bowe and Alex Smith? Smith is probably the most underrated QB in the history of the game. The Chiefs definitely upped the 49ers on that trade.
No I dont consider Alex Smith to be better than Charles. Bowe you may have a case for, but Alex Smith? Alex Smith is also not the most underrated QB in history. He was a number 1 overall who has been outplayed his entire career by other QB's drafted that same year. How is that underrated? He is a game manager that has yet to show that he can put a team on his shoulders other than a rare game or two.

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J. Charles will do fine in Andy's system. He is not a pounder who gets the majority of his yards between the tackles. He is more of a breakaway threat and Reid's system will let him operate in space more. I think - if he remains healthy - Charles is in for a big year next season.
To have success in that system, wouldnt he need to carry the ball more than 10 times a game? Charles better hope Reid developed an understanding of the run game after being fired by Philly, or Charles better love getting his production on screen passes.
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I just tweeted Eric saying I hope he takes a good look at the Redskins. We'd love to have him go deep into the playoffs with us.

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sidenote

Our buddies the Eagles reportedly want Winston as their RT for Chip Kellys scheme.
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Our buddies the Eagles reportedly want Winston as their RT for Chip Kellys scheme.
In everyone's opinions, which would be worse, Winston to Philly or Dallas?
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In everyone's opinions, which would be worse, Winston to Philly or Dallas?
Dallas.

Only teams so far according to PFT to talk to Winston are Houston (makes sense) and Philly. Last year Miami called. Dallas may call. We Better call (again)
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Dallas.

Only teams so far according to PFT to talk to Winston are Houston (makes sense) and Philly. Last year Miami called. Dallas may call. We Better call (again)
Winston doesn't make sense for us for a couple of reasons:

1) primarily salary, we are not in a position to pay top 5 money to a RT right now.

2) although Polumbus was less than stellar, we succeeded in having a successful attack to all parts of the field.

3) at 30, while not old, he isn't "young" either, and this draft will have RT's to develop.

4) speaking of developing, we have brought in several OL, and MS is big on OL stability. Bringing in a high to overpaid star power player, regardless of his ability, doesn't add to the cohesive group mentality MS creates

5) personally, the whole we gotta get player x, is the leftover mentality from the bad days. If we bring him in at a reasonable deal, great, but that won't happen, because he isn't looking for a reasonable deal. He wants the dollars. No fault on him, just saying that we don't do business that way anymore.
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J. Charles will do fine in Andy's system. He is not a pounder who gets the majority of his yards between the tackles. He is more of a breakaway threat and Reid's system will let him operate in space more. I think - if he remains healthy - Charles is in for a big year next season.
Agreed. I expect J.Charles to have a career year catching the ball as he becomes KC's version of Brian Westbrook.
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Winston doesn't make sense for us for a couple of reasons:

1) primarily salary, we are not in a position to pay top 5 money to a RT right now.

2) although Polumbus was less than stellar, we succeeded in having a successful attack to all parts of the field.

3) at 30, while not old, he isn't "young" either, and this draft will have RT's to develop.

4) speaking of developing, we have brought in several OL, and MS is big on OL stability. Bringing in a high to overpaid star power player, regardless of his ability, doesn't add to the cohesive group mentality MS creates

5) personally, the whole we gotta get player x, is the leftover mentality from the bad days. If we bring him in at a reasonable deal, great, but that won't happen, because he isn't looking for a reasonable deal. He wants the dollars. No fault on him, just saying that we don't do business that way anymore.
1) Yes, true, you hope he goes for the championship/good team and not for the money, again.

2) Polumbus, as I've mentioned before, didn't even rank in the top 35 RTs. Think about that one for a second. Winston, ranked 3rd and is a fit with this offense.

3) True

4) I wouldn't say we have stability at RT, at all. You're about 4/5ths correct. MS is not happy with the RT position. This is known throughout other insiders.

5) True, but every once in a while you come across a player that fits almost too pefectly or makes too much sense. Let me kind of flip this question on you. Would you want to draft a guy you have no idea how he'd hold up in the pros, or would you go with the guy who is known by the coaches (Kyle Shanahan) and is known to fit an immediate need and you know what he's going to do against other pros? Its not like we're asking a lineman from another scheme which none of our coaches have no experience with (example Ghosder Cherilus) to come here and ''see what happens''.

Eric Winston supposedly dominated Von Miller last year, and I don't need to get into how great a player Von is.
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I get that Winston is one of the Best, AH was one of the best, many others were one of the best, but RT is not worth putting a big chunk of cap space towards. My point with Polumbus is not that he should be the guy, but that even a moderately priced FA/rookie combination should do wonders, and it's not worth breaking the bank for a top 5 RT.

With that said, if we cut Hall, and save his money could we have a shot at NA to replace Hall. This is a case where you could cut Hall, save his money and with a viable contract pay less money for a better CB, assuming we use him more to his talents.
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