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Old 10-09-2012, 11:07 AM   #226
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

Any chance that instead of Gano not trying out because of an issue between him and Shanahan, it has more to do with him being the default option and were just doing our due dilligence on other kickers first?

So if More, Brown, Forbath or whoever else might come in to kick doesnt look better than Gano, then Gano gets the job? Or is it offically over between the Skins and Gano at this point?

Also i think there are limitations to how many guys you can have in to try out each week. Maybe 3 or so kickers plus some other routine workout guys we will never hear about have already filled the allowed amount?
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:14 AM   #227
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Cundiffs has the 8th highest base salary among all NFL kickers.


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Billy Cundiff 2012 salary 2.2 million dollars.






Um....what?
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:15 AM   #228
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

It's safe to say that Cundiff is on a burning hot seat. He knows he better not miss anymore close range field goals from here on out.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:20 AM   #229
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I honestly dont agree that Gano was THAT inconsistent. The blocks from last year were not his fault. In my opinion, he was the best we'd had in a while, but thats not saying much. Of the guys out there now, i think he's the best available - by a wide margin. I want Cundiff gone as much as the next guy, but i think Cundiff is better than any of the guys we're supposedly bringing in today. We may be "stuck" with Cundiff.

What? take a look at his stats. dude also had a propensity to kick the ball out of bounds on kickoffs. Clearly if he was consistent he would be here.

We finally need to address this in the offseason.
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

Gano had all of 2010 and 2011 to prove that he belonged on the team. Obviously Mike Shanahan's patience with him grew thinner and thinner. But I just didn't like how the job was taken away from Gano and handed so freely to Cundiff. Cundiff, seemingly the better option, never beat Gano in head to head competition for the kicking job.
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:27 AM   #232
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That just doesn't sound right
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That just doesn't sound right
It's not. Made the correction. The site he pulled it from still had his old contract listed.
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It is. Sort of.

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Old 10-09-2012, 11:31 AM   #235
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It's not. Made the correction. The site he pulled it from still had his old contract listed.
Ok then, thought it was just...wait for it...vet min
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:37 AM   #236
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

Going back the Chris Russell thing talking about Gano being openly religious played a part. Here is a twitter exchange that clarifies what he said.

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Listening to @ESPNRadio980's post game audio from Sunday and @Russellmania980 really said Gano's religious leanings are what got him cut?


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@TMM75 @ESPNRadio980 That's not true, but u can walk away thinking that if u choose to believe that.


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@Russellmania980 @ESPNRadio980 Just trying to understand what you were trying to say.


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@TMM75 @ESPNRadio980 - I was asked if there were any other reason besides just performance. So I answered what I believe to be true.




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If the Skins axe Cundiff by Sunday, they'll be on 19 kickers since 1994. NFL avg is about 8.5. No other team above 13. Redskins lead the NFL in kicking changes
Retweeted by Chris Russell
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:42 AM   #238
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

Looks like we have Josh Brown, Olinde Mare, and Kai Forbath are trying out today.

Some stats thrown out by CR this morning.


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PK Josh Brown is a career 80.9% in terms of FG accuracy, His % went from 84.6% to 75 % from '10 to '11, Fisher (STL) or Ryan (NYJ) said no.



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Olindo Mare is 39 (22-28) last year w/ CAR, 78.6% with 84 kickoffs, & 53 touchbacks (new rules). In '10, was (25-30, 83.3%) (72 KO, 20 TB)


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Per @NFL .com - PK Josh Brown had only 15 touchbacks on 54 KO's in '11, while playing in a dome at home (STL). In '10, 73 KO's & 5 touchback


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Kai Forbath was (1-1) at FedEx in the final PS game, good from 43, 2 KO with no touchbacks, overall (5-5) in pre, long of 55, 9 KO, 2TB.
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And another kicker that couldn't beat out Gano lighting it up for texans
Graham stunk it up for us last yr
Has there ever been a kicker that left the skins and didn't get a job somewhere else?
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What? take a look at his stats. dude also had a propensity to kick the ball out of bounds on kickoffs. Clearly if he was consistent he would be here.

We finally need to address this in the offseason.

I agree with BHA that he wasnt as incosistant as some people think he was, at least in 2011. He was 31 out of 41 with 5 being blocked. If all his blocks were made he would be 88%, although some of the kicks may have been missed and some of the blocks may very well be his fault. No excuse for kicks out of bounds though.

I think why people liked him is that he is a young kicker with a very strong leg that was getting better. He also owns the Redskins record for longest field goal. I liked him because he broke his back and kept playing and made a FG. I thought that was pretty sweet. Maybe not Trent Williams bone bruise im proving myself and need to let everyone know tough, but still tough nonetheless.....
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