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Old 10-02-2012, 06:10 PM   #61
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

I would be severely disappointed if we cut Cundiff based on Sundays performance. Everyone can have a "bad day". NFL kickers are no different. Just an inch off his mark on the ball or a slight shift on his approach can make for a "really bad day", like we observed on Sunday. However, he is a professional, so I expect him to bounce back and be consistent once more.

I also believe the Skins chose Cundiff because they expected the offense to be much improved under RGIII. They preferred the consistency of Cundiffs short and mid range kicks than the others kickers semi consistent all around kicking. Based on that idea, Cundiff is on a very short leash if continues to have "bad days".
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:23 PM   #62
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I don't understand why we didn't grab Wade when Dallas canned him? Did he and Mike have a falling out after winning SBs together?
I thought Greg Robinson was Mikes DC in Denver when they won the 2 SB's not Swade???? But i may be wrong.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:34 PM   #63
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I don't understand why we didn't grab Wade when Dallas canned him? Did he and Mike have a falling out after winning SBs together?
He wasn't the DC there when they won their SB's
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:38 PM   #64
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Can Wade play safety or CB? If not he isn't going to be much help. Our problem doesn't boil down to bad coaching. We lack TALENT in our secondary and don't have a shut down front 7 to make up for it. We have a solid front 7 and a TERRIBLE secondary. Plain and simple. It won't matter who the coach is as long as we can't cover down field. We really lack even one difference maker in coverage. IF we upgrade the talent we may be better able to evaluate the coaching. At this point I can't say whether it is good or bad. I suspect it is just average but who knows?
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:52 PM   #65
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

I'm always iffy on Cundiff after he blew the Ravens AFC Championship chances last year, missing a... what do ya know... 31 yard FG.

Russian roulette.

But if this is the best we've got then... C'est la vie.
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

I don't consider Cundiff amongst the best NFL kickers. He's had problems throughout his career making long range kicks. I was surprised by how Mike Shahanan gave him the job after Graham Gano had won it fairly in training camp/preseason. Let's hope Shanahan's decision to release Gano in favor of Cundiff doesn't come back to bite us later on down the road.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:44 PM   #67
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

While it is well known that BC is not the >50 yard Juggernaut. His accuracy under that is formidable.....only not last Sunday...
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I don't consider Cundiff amongst the best NFL kickers. He's had problems throughout his career making long range kicks. I was surprised by how Mike Shahanan gave him the job after Graham Gano had won it fairly in training camp/preseason. Let's hope Shanahan's decision to release Gano in favor of Cundiff doesn't come back to bite us later on down the road.
How could we ever say that it did. I was a big Gano fan (yo Gano), but seriously even if Cundiff missed. how would anyone be able to rue the fact that Gano wasn't kicking. He had not developed that much of a consistency to make us confident he would make one BC missed.
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People sure have a short memory when it comes to Gano.
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How could we ever say that it did. I was a big Gano fan (yo Gano), but seriously even if Cundiff missed. how would anyone be able to rue the fact that Gano wasn't kicking. He had not developed that much of a consistency to make us confident he would make one BC missed.
You're absolutely right about that. I just feel Gano would have made that 57 yarder, seeing as though he made a 59 yarder last season versus San Francisco.
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I don't understand why we didn't grab Wade when Dallas canned him? Did he and Mike have a falling out after winning SBs together?
Because the Redskins don't play in Houston.
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I've always been a gano backer but he was never Mr consistent. As many have said lets call it 1/3 and hopefully the misses are out of his system. No need to think competition already.
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Re: Should Billy Cundiff still be cut!

Billy Cundiff is definitely on the hot seat now. Not saying he would have been cut had he missed that last FG attempt, but that 1/3 outing still makes him appear suspect whether he made the game winning kick or not.
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Can Wade play safety or CB? If not he isn't going to be much help. Our problem doesn't boil down to bad coaching. We lack TALENT in our secondary and don't have a shut down front 7 to make up for it. We have a solid front 7 and a TERRIBLE secondary. Plain and simple. It won't matter who the coach is as long as we can't cover down field. We really lack even one difference maker in coverage. IF we upgrade the talent we may be better able to evaluate the coaching. At this point I can't say whether it is good or bad. I suspect it is just average but who knows?
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Average d coordinators adjust the scheme and tweak the overall game-plan throughout the game to put their players in the best position to defend what the offense is bringing on the next down, next series, next quarter. I haven't seen Haslett do this. He tends to adjust at half-time, and not always get that right.
Good d coordinators make adjustments at least every series, and get most of them right.
Great d coordinators force the offense to adjust to the defense!

Lousy d coordinators make fewer adjustments and get fewer right. See: Haslett, James.

Specifically, Haslett let the secondary get torched by Danny freaking Amendola for nearly a half without putting a safety over the top on every play to shut em down!!! Why the eff did we go out and sign DL free agents, draft another and two top OLBs in the last two years if not to have a consistent front seven? And the guys standing in for Rak are getting pressures and sacks. Oh, yeah, a guy name London Fletcher plays in that bunch too. So give your hobbit DBs a hand out there when they face AJ Green, or a hot-handed VJax. And enough with the suicide stunts, a$$hole.

Well geez I've thought forever Wade was in Denver then and nobody said boo, was it after then? One of the DCs Mike canned in the post-Elway years? That might explain it then...but bottom line, if not Wade find another guy who can give our defense a chance to consistently compete with it's athleticism, toughness and pride. Because we're not lacking in guys who can win if given the chance to compete. Hell, even our hobbit DBs have been hitting guys in the mouth pretty solid (this is not Hall, or Hall vs Wilson argument starter, leave it). And that's really the only group you should have to compensate for, having spent a good bit of time and resources on the front seven. So figure it the eff out JHaz.

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Can Wade play safety or CB? If not he isn't going to be much help. Our problem doesn't boil down to bad coaching. We lack TALENT in our secondary and don't have a shut down front 7 to make up for it. We have a solid front 7 and a TERRIBLE secondary. Plain and simple. It won't matter who the coach is as long as we can't cover down field. We really lack even one difference maker in coverage. IF we upgrade the talent we may be better able to evaluate the coaching. At this point I can't say whether it is good or bad. I suspect it is just average but who knows?
In terms of the talent issues, It's mostly the safety play. We basically have the same corners as last year. Look at the results we had last year. The difference is that we had a former pro bowler at FS and a quality SS in landry last year. Now we have the backup's backups starting for us at those positions and they are frequently out of position. There are some scheme issues there too in certain situations but the biggest problem is FS/SS.
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