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A lot of people blame Haslett, and maybe he is to blame. I don't hold account though.. Check this blog for all you Haslett haters.

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Coach Haz isn't the problem. The problem is obviously the personnel. DeAngelo Hall is soft in coverage. He does play well at times, but he's never been able to shut down a elite NFL receiver since he's played for the Redskins. Coach Haz is one of the better defensive coordinators in the NFL. The Redskins didn't jump from a 31st ranked standing in 2010 to a 13th ranked standing in 2011 for nothing. The personnel changed. Orakpo and Carriker is gone for the year on IR, but that shouldn't stop the defensive unit from progressing. Haz has had to coordinate the defense without his best players in the lineup while other players in the unit have underperformed.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:26 PM   #47
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He now wants Raheem Morris as the DC <snip>
Where are you hearing that?
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:17 PM   #48
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ES skins insider. Imma take there word for it but he did turn down Minny for the DC job to sooner or later take the DC job from Haslett. Thats what they say but makes sense .

That Smoot guy probably cann tell you that too idk. I just want this team to win. Nationals are on the level of Capitals for disappointing me.
'That Smoot guy'.......

'Kin 'ell dude.....He's practically royalty around here!

I would see the move by management to have a DC in waiting, as it were, but I don't see it happening for another season or more. Haslett can argue that he's never had the parts for the machine he's building.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:28 PM   #49
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'That Smoot guy'.......

'Kin 'ell dude.....He's practically royalty around here!

I would see the move by management to have a DC in waiting, as it were, but I don't see it happening for another season or more. Haslett can argue that he's never had the parts for the machine he's building.
Thats been the excuse in Redskins land for the past 3 years, no matter which coach you are talking about. I'd say the skiins are about 4 seasons from putting it all together, but then we might have to address half of our roster due to age, so then we might be talking actually 5 or 6 years before we get to the playoffs. It does take a while to build a winner...............

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Thats been the excuse in Redskins land for the past 3 years, no matter which coach you are talking about. I'd say the skiins are about 4 seasons from putting it all together, but then we might have to address half of our roster due to age, so then we might be talking actually 5 or 6 years before we get to the playoffs. It does take a while to build a winner...............

smh

That's the real pisser of the situation. A quality FO and coaching staff would be winning this season, the third year in. It was really, really irresponsible to force the switch on defense w/o acquiring the players AND the coaching talent necessary to keep the defense strong. In effect, Mike took the strongest part of the team and grossly handicapped it, and because his monumental ego precludes an adjustment back to the 4-3 and we're limited on quality picks we're stuck with a garbage defense for the remainder of his tenure in all probability. For those who want to crap on the Blache defense still today...are you a Redskins fan or a Shanahan fan?

A quality FO and staff would have kept the 4-3 until the most necessary players became available to thrive in the 3-4, namely front 7 players who really fit the scheme. When you look at our defensive personnel every player with the questionable exception of Perry Riley is (still) best suited for a 4-3 defense.
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Dear Goat et al,

I get it:
you don't like the team's direction under Shanahan.
And you have alot of evidence on your side.
And this is an open internet forum where you can say pretty much anything

got it. I will tell you its frustrating coming on here and seeing the same rehash of every negative associated with the past 20 years of the Skins. I currently am not using the ignore feature because I like hearing everyone's opinions but its getting to that point with your incessant negativity that I either put you on it or I don't read the warpath as often. kinda an easy choice from that standpoint.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:38 PM   #52
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Dear Goat et al,

I get it:
you don't like the team's direction under Shanahan.
And you have alot of evidence on your side.
And this is an open internet forum where you can say pretty much anything

got it. I will tell you its frustrating coming on here and seeing the same rehash of every negative associated with the past 20 years of the Skins. I currently am not using the ignore feature because I like hearing everyone's opinions but its getting to that point with your incessant negativity that I either put you on it or I don't read the warpath as often. kinda an easy choice from that standpoint.
CRed I like your style bro: straight and to the point. I use the ignore feature regularly, and it makes TWP "experience" even better!

Come out and say hello from time to time...there's cake!

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Old 10-13-2012, 11:42 PM   #53
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I agree.When this season is over I bet these things will happen these 3 things will happen.


1: RG3 vs Kirk Kousins threads

2: Should Shanny be fired?

3: 4-3 rumors.

just my two cent . I know how we act we usually go trough these directions. Lets hope rex ryan gets fired.
You're probably right...even though any RG3 vs Cousins debate is insane.
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I agree.When this season is over I bet these things will happen these 3 things will happen.


1: RG3 vs Kirk Kousins threads

2: Should Shanny be fired?

3: 4-3 rumors.

just my two cent . I know how we act we usually go trough these directions. Lets hope rex ryan gets fired.
1. Maybe on EX, but around here? Nah. I think most members of this board all agree there is no debate there.

2. Lemme do a quick poll: Yes - GOAT, possibly you, based on your posts? No - minus 2 or 3 people, everybody else.

3. Probably the only discussion I believe might have some merit, but that all hinges on Haslett getting replaced (a real possibility).
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Old 10-14-2012, 01:23 PM   #55
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The D was overrated, but Orakpo is a top 15 pass rusher also. Try to look at it from a few different perspectives. Imagine us having just played the falcons with no Abraham.
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Dear Goat et al,

I get it:
you don't like the team's direction under Shanahan.
And you have alot of evidence on your side.
And this is an open internet forum where you can say pretty much anything

got it. I will tell you its frustrating coming on here and seeing the same rehash of every negative associated with the past 20 years of the Skins. I currently am not using the ignore feature because I like hearing everyone's opinions but its getting to that point with your incessant negativity that I either put you on it or I don't read the warpath as often. kinda an easy choice from that standpoint.
Here's the thing CRed. I understand its a redskins forum, and I'm a redskins fan. But please, quit the whole "If your not gonna be all bright and happy with rainbows coming out of your ears and bright sunshiny rays flowing out your ass about the Redskins, please just quit posting."

You don't like what other people post, don't read it. I'm sure even the goat wants the skins to be good, its just that with being so bad for so long, some of us get frustrated at times, especially three years in, and the same lame ass excuses are made about two to three more years, you just wait. Anyways, out of respect for Sundays being a football day, I will withdraw from this topic, at least for the rest of today! Good luck skins!
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Old 10-14-2012, 01:47 PM   #57
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That's the real pisser of the situation. A quality FO and coaching staff would be winning this season, the third year in. It was really, really irresponsible to force the switch on defense w/o acquiring the players AND the coaching talent necessary to keep the defense strong. In effect, Mike took the strongest part of the team and grossly handicapped it, and because his monumental ego precludes an adjustment back to the 4-3 and we're limited on quality picks we're stuck with a garbage defense for the remainder of his tenure in all probability. For those who want to crap on the Blache defense still today...are you a Redskins fan or a Shanahan fan?

A quality FO and staff would have kept the 4-3 until the most necessary players became available to thrive in the 3-4, namely front 7 players who really fit the scheme. When you look at our defensive personnel every player with the questionable exception of Perry Riley is (still) best suited for a 4-3 defense.
Here is the thing. Even when Shanny was with Denver, he won a bunch of games just due to the fact that the AFC west stunk shweaty balls. He ran the defense in Denver straight into the ground, I think he might have used them to frack for oil or something. Point is, everywhere shanahan goes, the defenses suffer.

I'm sure you are familiar with his history on the defensive front, but it waas to be expected. Nothing new here, really.

OK, I promise CRed, that is the last negative shanahan ad I will run today.
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I agree.When this season is over I bet these things will happen these 3 things will happen.


1: RG3 vs Kirk Kousins threads

2: Should Shanny be fired?

3: 4-3 rumors.

just my two cent . I know how we act we usually go trough these directions. Lets hope rex ryan gets fired.
1. RG3 is the truth, and I don't see that there even could be a logical debate. Here no way, ES sure.

2. Shanny- It all depends on his resord as to whether he will be on the hot seat. Honestly I dont think he is and should be given his 5 years.

3. Now there may be something to that, but again till this year plays out who knows. I know I for one would like to keep a 3-4 and keep adding players to the defense.
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Old 10-15-2012, 12:26 PM   #59
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What's with this Jeff Fisher love affair?
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