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Old 10-08-2012, 07:46 AM   #181
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Many of his passes, even the completions, didn't look accurate. He was throwing low, throwing behind receivers. If I were to lay the smack down...RG3, Kyle Shanahan, Cundiff, and Madieu Williams would get it
That stood out to me as well. Receivers seemed to be spinning and turning on even short passes and screens. The play before RG3 got hurt would have been a TD if the pass wasn't thrown behind Garçon. Also, it seems like every pass is to the middle of the field 10-20 yards past the line of scrimmage. I feel like teams are going to take that part of the field away and force more throws to the sidelines and over the top.
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I don't know how you come to your conclusions. Not a serious football team, goofy kiddo. I really don't get it. But whatever, it's your opinion.
You're just not intelligent enough to get it.
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Wait, don't I get credit for questioning it when he was signed!! lol

To kind of bring things full circle on Mike's (umpteenth) FA mistake, I know some folks asked if anyone (probably me especially though) would still prefer Gaffney or some other average, veteran WR. I don't see how anyone would prefer otherwise.

Gaffney or another WR would have commanded $1 million/year guaranteed money, at the most. We're paying Garcon $5 million + per year in guaranteed money. Is Garcon five times more valuable than an average, veteran WR? Will he be five times for valuable that the avg, bet WR in any year of his career? LOL, he's not even twice as valuable. He's maybe the 3rd best WR on the roster. Will he be targeted a lot yet this season? Sure. Will he have the most TDs of the WR corp? Probably, given how much the offense is willing to sacrifice to get him the ball already. Will that prove he's better than Moss, worthy of the contract, or deserves to start? (Right now my starters would be Moss and Hankerson, with Garcon and Morgan and Robinson battling to be the the "3rd option")
I soon as saw the "sign Gaffney" - I stopped reading. We get it Goat. We are all idiots for thinking Garcon was a good signing. Fire the coach and front office today.

Now what's your plan?
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4.This is his second concussion in less than a year. Griffin suffered a concussion last November while at Baylor trying to get away from a pass rush. He went to slide, took a forearm to the head and his head bounced on the turf.
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My thoughts on this game, after having a night to sleep on it, are as follows:

I think it's so ironic that a game in which the Shanahans were trying to protect RGIII the most is when he gets knocked out of the game with a concussion. However, that was all on RGIII. If he had just thrown the ball away, lived to played another series, the 'skins probably would have had a great chance to have beaten the Falcons. I mean, who knows? I have so much confidence in RGIII, that I never think the 'skins are out of a ballgame until the time reads 00:00.

I appreciate the fact the Mike & Kyle were calling an offense to protect their QB more. I just hate the fact that Griffin's receivers weren't helping him a lot with dropped passes and so forth, but there's only so much one man can do! But, besides that, it seems to me that the more you call a "safe" game in terms of protecting RGIII, the less potent the offense seems, and it also seems to take away a dimension of RGIII's game. But nevertheless, you do have to protect your investment.

In the near future, RGIII will learn how to protect himself better, while being a danger with his legs. Hopefully that will come sooner than the next hit that could be a season ender. Anyways, there HAS to be a happy medium, because we're going to need the offense to utilize every skill RGIII has if this season's version of the Redskins are going to end at or above .500.

The defense played very well, Haslett had them ready. They did pretty much everything they needed to do to help this team beat the Falcons. Unfortunately, the offense took a bad time to have a scoring drought, but you do kind of expect a harder time scoring against a well polished team like the Atlanta Falcons. Still, if the offense was scoring like they did in previous games, the Redskins could have very easily beat the Falcons, because the 'skins defense was playing pretty solid.

HOWEVER, the defense couldn't pressure Matt Ryan enough, and eventually the defense couldn't hold up for all four quarters. Couple that with RGIII getting knocked out of the game, and I figured the team was done for at that point.

So, moving forward, I think Mike & Kyle will continue to keep RGIII safe, but that might be at an expense of a few games. After five games, I'm thinking this roster is young and definitely talented in a few areas, but still just not quite good enough. We have great players in RGIII and Alfred Morris on offense, and guys like London Fletcher, Ryan Kerrigan, and Perry Riley on defense. But, I don't think it's going to be quite enough. Still, plenty of games ahead of us, but I now see how huge it was to lose Brian Orakpo, and even Adam Carriker. If the defensive line isn't getting to the QB early and often, then the 'skins only option is to win in shoot out games - and you can't do that if RGIII is on the sidelines.

I just hope for the Shanahan's sake that they can get this thing figured out in two more seasons, because everybody's (including my) evaluation starts this season, and this team HAS to start figuring it out on the field.
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My thoughts on this game, after having a night to sleep on it, are as follows:

I think it's so ironic that a game in which the Shanahans were trying to protect RGIII the most is when he gets knocked out of the game with a concussion. However, that was all on RGIII. If he had just thrown the ball away, lived to played another series, the 'skins probably would have had a great chance to have beaten the Falcons. I mean, who knows? I have so much confidence in RGIII, that I never think the 'skins are out of a ballgame until the time reads 00:00.

I appreciate the fact the Mike & Kyle were calling an offense to protect their QB more. I just hate the fact that Griffin's receivers weren't helping him a lot with dropped passes and so forth, but there's only so much one man can do! But, besides that, it seems to me that the more you call a "safe" game in terms of protecting RGIII, the less potent the offense seems, and it also seems to take away a dimension of RGIII's game. But nevertheless, you do have to protect your investment.

In the near future, RGIII will learn how to protect himself better, while being a danger with his legs. Hopefully that will come sooner than the next hit that could be a season ender. Anyways, there HAS to be a happy medium, because we're going to need the offense to utilize every skill RGIII has if this season's version of the Redskins are going to end at or above .500.

The defense played very well, Haslett had them ready. They did pretty much everything they needed to do to help this team beat the Falcons. Unfortunately, the offense took a bad time to have a scoring drought, but you do kind of expect a harder time scoring against a well polished team like the Atlanta Falcons. Still, if the offense was scoring like they did in previous games, the Redskins could have very easily beat the Falcons, because the 'skins defense was playing pretty solid.

HOWEVER, the defense couldn't pressure Matt Ryan enough, and eventually the defense couldn't hold up for all four quarters. Couple that with RGIII getting knocked out of the game, and I figured the team was done for at that point.

So, moving forward, I think Mike & Kyle will continue to keep RGIII safe, but that might be at an expense of a few games. After five games, I'm thinking this roster is young and definitely talented in a few areas, but still just not quite good enough. We have great players in RGIII and Alfred Morris on offense, and guys like London Fletcher, Ryan Kerrigan, and Perry Riley on defense. But, I don't think it's going to be quite enough. Still, plenty of games ahead of us, but I now see how huge it was to lose Brian Orakpo, and even Adam Carriker. If the defensive line isn't getting to the QB early and often, then the 'skins only option is to win in shoot out games - and you can't do that if RGIII is on the sidelines.

I just hope for the Shanahan's sake that they can get this thing figured out in two more seasons, because everybody's (including my) evaluation starts this season, and this team HAS to start figuring it out on the field.
The pass rush was so bad I got up to get a beer at the begining of a Falcons play and Matt was still in the pocket when I got back with my beer.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:05 AM   #189
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So you sign Gaffney for one year and then what? Sign him again for another one year deal?
Why not? It seems a whole lot more fiscally responsible considering we are already behind 36mil over the next two years, and our defense is worst in the league, the secondary is a disaster, and o-line is shaky at best.

I know that hind sight is 20 20. But Id wager that alot of people on this site questioned the AMOUNT we gave garcon, especially with our holes, and the positions that went unfilled because of his huge signing, not the fact that we signed him. Noone questioned the upgrade. I think he is our best reciever, and I think he will be here a while and perform. But gaffney or some other WR, with proven hands and a decent route runner might have been a better option considering our cap situation, thats all.
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Still way too early to close the book on Garcon. He's still working his way back from injury. He needs to start stepping it up though, no doubt. Although if Griffin hits him in stride on that slant and he walks in for a TD, people might be singing a slightly different tune today. Just sayin'.

We needed to add playmakers for Griffin, and Gaffney clearly did not fit that description. Let's move on.
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Garcon was targeted 7 times, but only caught 3. He was a big reason as to why he didn't perform well. This was my issue with him in Indy. Was inconsistent with his play.

RGIII wasn't all that accurate either as he should have been.
Two years ago, he was very inconsistent and had the dropsies. I followed him b/c he was on one of my fantasy teams. Last year, however, he had his best year and did it as a No. 1 WR with a lousy QB.

He has to show more than he did yesterday to be worth the money given. At the same time, it was game 2 of his Redskins career, playing on a bad foot. I, for one, am not ready to write him off just yet.

Gaffney? Stallworth? Please. Do we need to go through the YAC analysis, and its importance, AGAIN?
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I can't see the future, but I would put my money on yes. He said 5 years, and we are already winning. 2-3 is not 1-4, or 0-5.. This is the NFL, and there is not one team that is perfect. I didn't see the the Falcons board screaming to fire their offensive cordinator because they had two plays that threw passes to a backup center.

Shanahan came in and said it would take 5 years. I'm willing to give him that. He's done a lot of good for this franchise and we are currently 1 game out of the division lead.

I have a strong feeling if we win next week, and go in to NY the following with the division lead at stake. The vibrations of failure could change around here.

Everyone is so easy to scream failure. I understand everyone has different opinions, but this day and age NFL isn't perfect.. People and teams will get better or worse. I believe we are getting better.

Packers got beat by the Colts yesterday, and they are now 2-3.. The worse team in the NFL last year just beat the team that was in the Superbowl. I believe we were an injury away from perhaps winning against a team that is now 5-0 this year.

We are not as far off as people think in my opinion.
I thought the Giants won the superbowl last year, and represented the NFC.............I may be wrong on that?
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Can we stop with this baloney about RG3 being handcuffed or held back? Look at the numbers he's putting up along with the entire offense. No, it's not perfect and we have plenty of room for improvement, but this notion that he's being handcuffed just sounds absurd.
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In addition to every team in the NFL being beatable (with the exception of the 49ers, DAMN!) at least with the Skins we can enjoy the "Any Given Sunday" mantra. We're competitive in every game and we're continuing to get better.

I think what's frustrating a lot of people is we haven't put together a complete game yet. If offense and defense do their jobs, special teams doesn't. Just stuff like that. If RG3 comes back, we'll have another tough test on our hands, but we match up pretty well with the Vikings.
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Love the team, but we need to get Santana back in the mix more.
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