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Old 10-08-2012, 12:52 PM   #226
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I don't think RGIII is being handcuffed in terms of passing. He's thrown the deep ball quite a bit, but he also looks to complete the higher percentage pass more often than not. If RGIII is handcuffed at all, it's just to protect him; aka calling less option sprints or QB keepers. As I pointed out in my first post, I DO think game planning running plays with RGIII opens the offense up to its fullest potential, but right now, it's probably best to limit that since he's gotten a concussion. In the long run, to have RGIII further develop his pocket passing. Once he starts to become feared as a pocket passer, it's going to make his scrambling deadlier to opposing defenses.
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Hank really hasn't impressed at all since drafting him, Morgan is solid and PG just isn't 100%. Moss is old but he still could give us some good play as he did yesterday. My favorite out of the bunch is Robinson personally, I feel he's going to be a very good slot WR
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I can't see the future, but I would put my money on yes. He said 5 years, and we are already winning. 2-3 is not 1-4, or 0-5.. This is the NFL, and there is not one team that is perfect. I didn't see the the Falcons board screaming to fire their offensive cordinator because they had two plays that threw passes to a backup center.

Shanahan came in and said it would take 5 years. I'm willing to give him that. He's done a lot of good for this franchise and we are currently 1 game out of the division lead.

I have a strong feeling if we win next week, and go in to NY the following with the division lead at stake. The vibrations of failure could change around here.

Everyone is so easy to scream failure. I understand everyone has different opinions, but this day and age NFL isn't perfect.. People and teams will get better or worse. I believe we are getting better.

Packers got beat by the Colts yesterday, and they are now 2-3.. The worse team in the NFL last year just beat the team that was in the Superbowl. I believe we were an injury away from perhaps winning against a team that is now 5-0 this year.

We are not as far off as people think in my opinion.
Fair enough except the comment about not one team that is perfect. Actually 5-0 is perfect and of course the falcons board isnt screaming- they won? There is a big difference between the skins being in the beginning of their third losing season in a row and last place in the division again and the falcons throwing two passes to their back up center. There is nit-picking and there is being sick of losing. I think anybody that follows the nfl would agree that redskins fans should be a tad bit more upset with the current situation in washington than the falcons fans in atlanta. We are still a team with a lot of question marks and the falcons are a team that is considered a super bowl contender.
That being said - i will leave shanny out of this because like it or not he is here. My positive thought is there is a ton of parody in the nfl and we are not buried in the nfc east by any means. I hope rg3 is back sunday and we win against minn. we have all of our nfc east games in hand and maybe just maybe we turn this around.


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But the pick wasn't for us to use him long-term, it was for us to trade him 2 or 3 years down the road and potentially get a high 1st or 2nd round pick. I can't argue with that logic.
I presume your talking about Cousins and am wondering what Redskin official and when did they say our plan was to pick him and trade him 2-3 yrs later? I've never heard that. Does it make sense? yeah but that doesn't mean thats the plan. The other idea is that Grossman sucks so bad they wanted a viable back up and the coaching staff liked what they saw in Cousins during the senior bowl.

I really wonder if the thought process wasn't more the fact Cousins came from a pro style college offense and RG3 didn't. In case RG3 struggled they could hopefully insert Cousins and get production until RG3 was up to speed. As it turned out RG3 was better then advertised.
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I also wondered why Grossman wasn't the 2nd string. Isn't that why we have him? To come in and get us out of a jam? A little unfair to have a rookie QB try and come in cold off the bench and try and win the game.
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I thought the Giants won the superbowl last year, and represented the NFC.............I may be wrong on that?
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I also wondered why Grossman wasn't the 2nd string. Isn't that why we have him? To come in and get us out of a jam? A little unfair to have a rookie QB try and come in cold off the bench and try and win the game.
Yeah I thought that was a poor decision
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Fair enough except the comment about not one team that is perfect. Actually 5-0 is perfect and of course the falcons board isnt screaming- they won? There is a big difference between the skins being in the beginning of their third losing season in a row and last place in the division again and the falcons throwing two passes to their back up center. There is nit-picking and there is being sick of losing. I think anybody that follows the nfl would agree that redskins fans should be a tad bit more upset with the current situation in washington than the falcons fans in atlanta. We are still a team with a lot of question marks and the falcons are a team that is considered a super bowl contender.
That being said - i will leave shanny out of this because like it or not he is here. My positive thought is there is a ton of parody in the nfl and we are not buried in the nfc east by any means. I hope rg3 is back sunday and we win against minn. we have all of our nfc east games in hand and maybe just maybe we turn this around.


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Fair enough, but there is also a big difference between 5-0, and 16-0. We can have the perfect discussion later down the road in the season. 2-3 is not is not 6-10 or even 2-14.
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. The problem with the defense came on third down as they allowed nine of 17 to be converted. Thatís how you let a team run 81 plays Ė 33 more than the Redskins. It didnít help at all that the Redskins were only one of nine on third down, making them three of 20 in the last two games combined. This has been a season-long issue and if they donít improve here, itíll be tough to sustain consistent success. As Robert Griffin III matures, itíll help the conversion rate. This was not his best game, injury notwithstanding. Back to the third-down chatter: The offense needed to help out the D more. If the idea is to keep an explosive offense off the field, they failed miserably. You canít give the Falcons 81 plays and expect to hold them down. They have too much talent.
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It's scary how accurate that is LOL!
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I think your right about Santana.

I dont think our WRs are 'winning' there matchups. Im specifically talking about Robinson and Hankerson...and Morgan to an extent. They need to beat their guy coming off the line and run a good route. If its zone, then they need to find the soft spot. I think it comes with time, but these guys are getting alot of playing time and its a passing league...I think Hank and Robinson have improved, but all about production vs playing time.
Tana is (still) the best WR on the roster for two critical reasons: he's the best route runner and he's far and away the best at finding an open space or creating separation. He's on par with the next best after the catch, but superior up to that point.

Outside of Moss, when you eyeball our WR talent and production vs their payroll, it's got to be among the worst in football. Neither Garcon nor Morgan are worth their contracts, and the opportunity cost of those mistakes by the regime are simply enormous given our salary cap situation.

The thing is, we realistically have to take a win now mindset. Given the lack of high draft picks over the next two seasons and the huge wad of cash we blew on FAs over the last two and a half seasons, the time to win is now. If anything we'll see more holes open up over the next 2-3 seasons as guys like Fletcher, Orakpo and Hall need replacing than we can fill through the draft. That's why I balk when Shanahan apologists continue to look toward the future for improvement. Do ya'll expect upgrades as we replace Fletcher, Orakpo, Hall and probably one or two other guys? The future is now.
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You refrenced green bay as the team in the superbowl. He was pointing out that the giants were that team because they won it. Anywho......


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I also wondered why Grossman wasn't the 2nd string. Isn't that why we have him? To come in and get us out of a jam? A little unfair to have a rookie QB try and come in cold off the bench and try and win the game.
I said this yesterday and somebody (forget who) lol'd me. Lol'd me can ya believe it? Lol
Edit: bucket you lol'd me in the gameday thread. I said i thought grossman was better than cousins (obviously meaning rite now as a backup - i did say cousins was a wasted pick - i stand by that - rex would be a better back up for the short future and still think the pick could have been used for secondary / line? And we will have time to replace our backup )


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Tana is (still) the best WR on the roster for two critical reasons: he's the best route runner and he's far and away the best at finding an open space or creating separation. He's on par with the next best after the catch, but superior up to that point.

Outside of Moss, when you eyeball our WR talent and production vs their payroll, it's got to be among the worst in football. Neither Garcon nor Morgan are worth their contracts, and the opportunity cost of those mistakes by the regime are simply enormous given our salary cap situation.

The thing is, we realistically have to take a win now mindset. Given the lack of high draft picks over the next two seasons and the huge wad of cash we blew on FAs over the last two and a half seasons, the time to win is now. If anything we'll see more holes open up over the next 2-3 seasons as guys like Fletcher, Orakpo and Hall need replacing than we can fill through the draft. That's why I balk when Shanahan apologists continue to look toward the future for improvement. Do ya'll expect upgrades as we replace Fletcher, Orakpo, Hall and probably one or two other guys? The future is now.
Moss is perfectly suited for what he is now, the #3 slot receiver who can be that reliable underneath receiver who can turn on the burners for a big gain

Morgan's contract is not as much of a handcuff as people seem to believe.

And we have plenty of draft picks, 2nd rounders, 3rd rounders. Yeah we don't have 1sts but let's not act like we're going into the next several years without key draft picks.

The future is not now. That's why you don't hold onto Gaffney when young talent like Garcon is available. Or spend money on Plax when you can develop Hankerson and Dez as red zone targets. Or add Chad Johnson when a younger receiver in Josh Morgan can grow as the Z receiver. All as RG3 develops too.

Of course I want to win, but I mean we're 2-3. How far off is that from where we all thought our record would be right now? Would you rather be 3-2 with Grossman and Gaffney or 2-3 with RG3 and Garcon?
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