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Old 10-09-2012, 10:58 PM   #361
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I expect the Rams to be able to compete by 2015. Considering their drafts, and the first round picks they'll get from us for the next few years as well as their own, they should be able to contend for playoff births by then.
...for playoffs, NFC championship, or the Lombardi?
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:15 PM   #362
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OK, I'm going to play for this comment only. He's been fairly healthy his whole career, had a career high with garbage QBs last year and dropped a few last game after being hurt. Bust already? If RG3 was hurt after having a good first quarter week one and then did just OK last game would you say bust then too?

Seems mighty hasty to me.
Gotta measure "bust" as a matter of expectations. If Garcon was expected to be a #1 WR anytime up to this point in his career, he's a bust. No other way to see it. He had arguably the greatest QB in the history of football tossing to him for what, three or four years, and never broke a thousand yards. He didn't break that barrier last year either, even with Wayne gimpy for what, most the season? Shanny paid way, way over Garcon's career performance thus far, hoping to catch him on the upswing. Could still happen, but frankly it would mean Garcon becomes a totally different kind of player than he's been up to this moment.

Setting Garcon aside, I'm of the view talent isn't our issue. Defensively, we still are better suited for a 4-3 scheme. You make that switch with smart d coordinator and we're a top 10 defense, even with the current state of our secondary. Offensively, we've been great this year as long as RG3 keeps the pigskin about half our rushing downs. Take that factor out of the equation, as seen in the last two games, and the offense is closer to average than elite. My suspicion, though I hope I'm wrong, is that Kyle's play-calling becomes ever more predictable as has always been the case with him. And that likely translates into offensive anemia.

Same with the offense as with the defense, we have the talent to be consistently good. Obviously, the line cannot be great with the likes of Polumbus waddling around out there, and if we lose Trent the line falls to pieces. But we've got an elite TE, an average WR corp that if schemed properly will consistently move the chains, a solid ground attack and a QB with elite skills.
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Someone needs to look up that Garcon free agent thread. People around here were so damn happy, acting like we just signed Jerry Rice. Garcon has never had a 1,000 season or 10 td's. I still think it's way too early to go sour on the guy but no way was he worth 42 million.
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Someone needs to look up that Garcon free agent thread. People around here were so damn happy, acting like we just signed Jerry Rice. Garcon has never had a 1,000 season or 10 td's. I still think it's way too early to go sour on the guy but no way was he worth 42 million.
His pay definitely outweighs his play. Apparently 42 mill is not an issue i guess though when it comes to garcon???


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...for playoffs, NFC championship, or the Lombardi?
The Rams will be a dangerous team in the very near future. 3 years from now they might be what the early 1990s Dallas Cowboys were then. I expect them to be a playoff team by the start of the 2015 season. As far as how far they'll go is anyone's guess.
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Garcon is 5 games in to his Redskin Career.. he doesn't have 550 yards w/ 4 TD's.. He's a bust obviously.
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Garcon is 5 games in to his Redskin Career.. he doesn't have 550 yards w/ 4 TD's.. He's a bust obviously.
Pierre Garcon is not a bust. he has 9 receptions for 180 something yards with a 19 yard per catch average and 1 TD. As we all know, he's been hurt. There's 11 games left for him to do damage.
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Pierre Garcon is not a bust. he has 9 receptions for 180 something yards with a 19 yard per catch average and 1 TD. As we all know, he's been hurt. There's 11 games left for him to do damage.
I was being sarcastic lol. I have faith in him. I can't speak on the behalf of others though.
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I was being sarcastic lol. I have faith in him. I can't speak on the behalf of others though.
For some reason, I don't think much of Josh Morgan. I admire him only because he's a DC native. He has produced, but his game is limited a bit. Hankerson I think is still developing. By his third year he'll be dangerous. I like how he contributed in the game against the Bucs. Aldrick Robinson has potential too. If he's to be the Redskins version of Victor Cruz, he needs to stop lolly gaggin' and let it all hang out.
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His pay definitely outweighs his play. Apparently 42 mill is not an issue i guess though when it comes to garcon???


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It's not because if he does have his expected upswing he's basically a steal. Plus look at guys like Miles Austin, Laurant Robinson, Sidney Rice, Nate Washington. Comparable performances comparable salaries.
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Pierre Garcon is not a bust. he has 9 receptions for 180 something yards with a 19 yard per catch average and 1 TD. As we all know, he's been hurt. There's 11 games left for him to do damage.
Apparently, Goat and a few others didn't get the word.
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It's not because if he does have his expected upswing he's basically a steal. Plus look at guys like Miles Austin, Laurant Robinson, Sidney Rice, Nate Washington. Comparable performances comparable salaries.
Four wrongs dont make a rite. I know he is injured - but its his foots. The drops have nothing to do with his foot - thats what made me question him.

Edit: his foot. Lol.
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Four wrongs dont make a rite. I know he is injured - but its his foots. The drops have nothing to do with his foot - thats what made me question him.


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So possible pain from his foot as he is running the route and every step he takes could be messing with him has absolutely nothing to do with him catching a ball?

I guess Santonio Holmes should have held on to the ball when he got hurt too.
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So possible pain from his foot as he is running the route and every step he takes could be messing with him has absolutely nothing to do with him catching a ball?

I guess Santonio Holmes should have held on to the ball when he got hurt too.
Well the routes looked good on the drops so if your question is do i think the pain is causing a problem with focus on the catch but not running the route i would say no. Drops in indy were the knock too not speed or anything else.


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Anyway listen. Im not down on our wr's. dont think they are a huge issue or even really an issue. Im nit picking i guess. I like garcon. Just wondering if he is worth the money thats all. I dont think he is a bust at all. Just hope he pans out to be a legit number one. Sure we all do.


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