Falcons at Redskins Post Game Thoughts

SFREDSKIN · 10-07-2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Argh. I hate when it's "buy high, sell low". Oh well.

Already gave away Bailey, Rogers, Landry, even if they didn't want to be here, that's a lot top 10 picks to let go. Yes, we got Portis but also away a 2nd rounder, blah, blah.

CultBrennan59 · 10-07-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

They won't...get a 1st

They'll get 2 Firsts!

Mechanix544 · 10-07-2012, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Exactly, with or without RG3 we weren't winning this game today.

I guess after watching him the first 4 games this season, i think your attempt at making a point falls miserably flat. Rg3, down one score with a quarter and a half left, and it doesnt matter, he would have lost it regardless? Bullshit. Had he not gotten injured, he could have easily brought this team back for a win. No logic in ur comment, especially since he has at times slung this team over his shoulder almost on a weekly basis, and won the game, or at least willed the team and gave us a shot at the win.

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Mattyk · 10-07-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I guess after watching him the first 4 games this season, i think your attempt at making a point falls miserably flat. Rg3, down one score with a quarter and a half left, and it doesnt matter, he would have lost it regardless? Bullshit. Had he not gotten injured, he could have easily brought this team back for a win. No logic in ur comment, especially since he has at times slung this team over his shoulder almost on a weekly basis, and won the game, or at least willed the team and gave us a shot at the win.

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I have to agree. When he got hurt the game was still very much up for grabs. Who knows what could have happened.

skinsfaninok · 10-07-2012, 07:46 PM

How'd cousins look? Griffs hit was pretty hard

CultBrennan59 · 10-07-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I guess after watching him the first 4 games this season, i think your attempt at making a point falls miserably flat. Rg3, down one score with a quarter and a half left, and it doesnt matter, he would have lost it regardless? Bullshit. Had he not gotten injured, he could have easily brought this team back for a win. No logic in ur comment, especially since he has at times slung this team over his shoulder almost on a weekly basis, and won the game, or at least willed the team and gave us a shot at the win.

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I know what I've seen from him. He's been great against the Bucs (1-3), the Saints (0-4), Did Ok/Good against the Rams (3-2) and Bengals (3-2). He has a lot of potential and is going to be a GREAT QB for us for years to come (so long as he stays healthy). But the Falcons are a great team (5-0) and good defense. RG3 can't play in the secondary so that is another factor of this game. When I watched him play today he didn't have any of those exciting plays. The Falcons did a great job containing RG3 and the CBs took away a lot of his passing windows. RG3 looked a tad off today, maybe it was the weather or something, but thats what good teams do is they take away great players from games. If I recall, RG3s only run of the day was when he got concussed. Oh and your probably going to bring up 'Well If Kirk could do...' well let me clue you in; They have no tape on Kirk and had no idea what to expect. Also I remember during the game that we went 1-9 on third down with RG3 in the game; if your not converting on 3rd down your not winning this game. Simple as that.

Also your comment is very hypocritical, because I'm just taking the loss side of it, while your taking the winning side of the argument. The fact of the matter is NEITHER of us know what would have really happened. So I can call BS to your 'argument' as well.

Bushead · 10-07-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I have to agree. When he got hurt the game was still very much up for grabs. Who knows what could have happened.

Oh I agree too. If it was only a one score game, I believe RGIII is going to perform well. It hurt having KC in there without any practice.

Mechanix544 · 10-07-2012, 07:57 PM

wrong cult. You made the statement that no matter what transpired to RG3, we would have lost the game, period point blank.

My point is that we could not have known what would happen, but if recent history is any indicator of possible outcomes, then my statement is that it would have been very reasonable to assume RG3 had plenty of time, talent and opportunity to win the game. A player of his caliber can very well make a difference in that situation, and it seems that you would dismiss everything he has done over the course of the first quarter of the season, and chalk it up to him performing well against poor defenses and the like. Your statement is ridiculous, but if you would like to keep arguing it, go right ahead. Fact is RG3 is a playmaker, and him leaving the game definitely hindered the team, as well as our chances of coming out of the game with a W, which was WELL WITHIN REACH, no matter how you would spin it.

skinsfan69 · 10-07-2012, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think we should prepare ourselves for the very real possibility that we won't see Orakpo, maybe ever again in a Redskins uniform. But that's another thread for another day.

I personally think we really miss Carriker more

This team isn't in the position to let go of good football players. I hope you're wrong.

Mechanix544 · 10-07-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This team isn't in the position to let go of good football players. I hope you're wrong.

is there some information that we don't know about concerning orakpo? Ot is he just going to be too expensive?

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skinsfaninok · 10-07-2012, 08:04 PM

I'd trade rak for a 2nd rder

htownskinfan · 10-07-2012, 08:06 PM

And were 0-9 in our last 9 home games,unfathomable
So much for home field advantage,we dont have it

Evilgrin · 10-07-2012, 08:12 PM

No team would give a 1st rounder for Orakpo, too worried about his health.

Bushead · 10-07-2012, 08:17 PM

I'm a bit suprised that the D-line isn't able to get any pressure. You would imagine that Stephen Bowen, Colefield and Kerrigan are all above average, right?

The Goat · 10-07-2012, 08:18 PM

Just got to watch the game, and am thankful for DVR because that was excruciating and "regular speed" would have killed me lol. The Falcons played their worst three quarters of football in the last three seasons, and then finally started to look like themselves in the 4th quarter. Up to that point Ryan was totally off his game. But you knew he'd get his head straight at some point and we'd lose (regardless of RG3's injury).

Once again we we're soundly outcoached in all phases of the game. The league has completely got Kyle's number unless he puts the game in RG3's hands.

After five games there are three resounding facts that any honest, intelligent observer has to make:

1) This defense is garbage compared to the one Mike and Bruce inherited.

2) Our best downfield targets are guys Mike and Bruce inherited. As I've said since the end of last season, Fred Davis is our best target and Moss second, though the way Kyle and maybe RG3 as a consequence force the ball toward other WRs, namely Garcon, our best WR isn't getting much work. Garcon just isn't very good.

3) And most importantly, the Skins are still far and away the worst team in the division.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it has gotten almost ridiculous to come here (I won't even go in to ES) and read posts defending the Shanahans, or anything about the current regime. These guys (not the players) are losers, in every sense of the word.

We have RG3, but to save him we've got to get a real coaching staff and FO in place.

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10-07-2012, 07:46 PM	#80
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,996	How'd cousins look? Griffs hit was pretty hard __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

10-07-2012, 07:57 PM	#83
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,044	Re: Falcons at Redskins Post Game Thoughts wrong cult. You made the statement that no matter what transpired to RG3, we would have lost the game, period point blank. My point is that we could not have known what would happen, but if recent history is any indicator of possible outcomes, then my statement is that it would have been very reasonable to assume RG3 had plenty of time, talent and opportunity to win the game. A player of his caliber can very well make a difference in that situation, and it seems that you would dismiss everything he has done over the course of the first quarter of the season, and chalk it up to him performing well against poor defenses and the like. Your statement is ridiculous, but if you would like to keep arguing it, go right ahead. Fact is RG3 is a playmaker, and him leaving the game definitely hindered the team, as well as our chances of coming out of the game with a W, which was WELL WITHIN REACH, no matter how you would spin it. __________________ Ain't Nothin Like a Good B Western. YEEHAW

10-07-2012, 08:04 PM	#86
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,996	I'd trade rak for a 2nd rder __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

10-07-2012, 08:06 PM	#87
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 51 Posts: 3,012	Re: Falcons at Redskins Post Game Thoughts And were 0-9 in our last 9 home games,unfathomable So much for home field advantage,we dont have it __________________ Ho Lee Chit

10-07-2012, 08:12 PM	#88
Evilgrin Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 464	Re: Falcons at Redskins Post Game Thoughts No team would give a 1st rounder for Orakpo, too worried about his health.

10-07-2012, 08:17 PM	#89
Bushead Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 695	Re: Falcons at Redskins Post Game Thoughts I'm a bit suprised that the D-line isn't able to get any pressure. You would imagine that Stephen Bowen, Colefield and Kerrigan are all above average, right?

10-07-2012, 08:18 PM	#90
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,021	Re: Falcons at Redskins Post Game Thoughts Just got to watch the game, and am thankful for DVR because that was excruciating and "regular speed" would have killed me lol. The Falcons played their worst three quarters of football in the last three seasons, and then finally started to look like themselves in the 4th quarter. Up to that point Ryan was totally off his game. But you knew he'd get his head straight at some point and we'd lose (regardless of RG3's injury). Once again we we're soundly outcoached in all phases of the game. The league has completely got Kyle's number unless he puts the game in RG3's hands. After five games there are three resounding facts that any honest, intelligent observer has to make: 1) This defense is garbage compared to the one Mike and Bruce inherited. 2) Our best downfield targets are guys Mike and Bruce inherited. As I've said since the end of last season, Fred Davis is our best target and Moss second, though the way Kyle and maybe RG3 as a consequence force the ball toward other WRs, namely Garcon, our best WR isn't getting much work. Garcon just isn't very good. 3) And most importantly, the Skins are still far and away the worst team in the division. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it has gotten almost ridiculous to come here (I won't even go in to ES) and read posts defending the Shanahans, or anything about the current regime. These guys (not the players) are losers, in every sense of the word. We have RG3, but to save him we've got to get a real coaching staff and FO in place. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

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