Week 6 Washington Redskins vs Minnesota Vikings Pregame Thread

punch it in · 10-12-2012, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucket

Much rather have Cousins.. Reason why you drafted him.

I realize we drafted him to ultimately back up RG3. Dont think anyone was thinking week six though. Im more concerned with our immediate season than i am with kirk cousins development or future Rite now id rather go with what i know we have in Grossman and the possibility of good rex than someone who is still wet behind the ears.

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The Goat · 10-12-2012, 12:50 AM

I don't really watch college football. Is Cousin's mobile? We need a mobile QB to score points consistently, and Rex can't waddle away from pressure to save his life.

punch it in · 10-12-2012, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

I don't really watch college football. Is Cousin's mobile? We need a mobile QB to score points consistently, and Rex can't waddle away from pressure to save his life.

yeah hes mobile enough - definitley more so than Rex, and I think that one day he is going to be a better qb than Rex - just not this Sunday.

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Bucket · 10-12-2012, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

I realize we drafted him to ultimately back up RG3. Dont think anyone was thinking week six though. Im more concerned with our immediate season than i am with kirk cousins development or future Rite now id rather go with what i know we have in Grossman and the possibility of good rex than someone who is still wet behind the ears.

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Well i would rather give Cousins the experience now, and he be ready to fill shoes sooner then later right? What's he got to learn as the 3rd string? He needs to be ready now, and to be honest.. He looked just as good Rex did all last season against the Falcons.

REDSKINS4ever · 10-12-2012, 03:13 AM

Kirk Cousins was projected to be a 2nd round pick. How he fell to the 4th round no one knows. Mike Shanahan did the right thing in selecting him. He was too good to pass up when he was available. In conjunction with RG3's concussion, it was a wise move for the Redskins to select Cousins when they got the opportunity.

NC_Skins · 10-12-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Wow -that sounds like some good ole ES stuff rite there.
Classic - never watch football - close the thread??? lol
All im saying is I am sure there was some thought about playing/not playing him this week as well there should be.
To dismiss the fact that he suffered a concussion because he is not as fast as a race car is crazy and over the top.

I never said I feel so strongly about anything Im just making some points. Did I say I dont think he should play? No. I said it is not an idiotic thought like you guys are making it out to be.

I don't think ANYBODY is dismissing anything in regards to RGIII's discussion. However, relating a concussion from a driver who is accelerating over 100mph and slamming into other solid objects to a QB getting hit by another player is comparing apples to oranges.

What we are saying is, LET THE INDEPENDENT DOCTORS decide. Keeping him out a "extra" week isn't going to do jack shit if he's cleared to play this week. If his concussion was mild or minor, I see no problems if he passes the tests and some qualified expert clears him. So if they don't have a problem with it, why should you?

That bit about feeling strongly about it then stop watching football didn't translate as well as I wanted so disregard that part.

BigHairedAristocrat · 10-12-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Kirk Cousins was projected to be a 2nd round pick. How he fell to the 4th round no one knows. Mike Shanahan did the right thing in selecting him. He was too good to pass up when he was available. In conjunction with RG3's concussion, it was a wise move for the Redskins to select Cousins when they got the opportunity.

Everyone with a lick of sense felt the exact same way you do the moment Cousins was picked. It really irked me how many people in the media were criticizing the moveat the time, saying we shoudl have selected a lineman and/or suggesting that we were creating a quarterback controvery

scowan · 10-12-2012, 11:11 AM

Man, the Redskins really need a win this weekend. To think they might beat the Giants or the Steelers on the road the next couple of weeks would be really optimistic.

If they are not careful, they are going to go back into that category of playing meaningless games for the rest of the year as early as October. I think they can beat the Panther before the Bye in Week 9, but if they loose 3 more before then, none of us will care. Come on Skins!

los panda · 10-12-2012, 11:26 AM

what kind of a leader is london fletcher? does he inspire the defense?

Meks · 10-12-2012, 11:33 AM

i think hes a great leader

53Fan · 10-12-2012, 11:42 AM

Fletch is a great leader. He can't give the secondary more talent.

REDSKINS4ever · 10-12-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Everyone with a lick of sense felt the exact same way you do the moment Cousins was picked. It really irked me how many people in the media were criticizing the moveat the time, saying we shoudl have selected a lineman and/or suggesting that we were creating a quarterback controvery

That's because those in the media are stupid people half of the time. Mike Shanahan knows what he's doing. Rex Grossman is a journeyman quarterback who can be a decent backup, but Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan knows that Grossman won't be around forever. Might as well draft a quarterback. Shanahan took the best one available.

That's human nature to want to talk about a situation or make a situation out to be a much bigger deal than it actually is. That's the media for you.

htownskinfan · 10-12-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I don't think ANYBODY is dismissing anything in regards to RGIII's discussion. However, relating a concussion from a driver who is accelerating over 100mph and slamming into other solid objects to a QB getting hit by another player is comparing apples to oranges.

What we are saying is, LET THE INDEPENDENT DOCTORS decide. Keeping him out a "extra" week isn't going to do jack shit if he's cleared to play this week. If his concussion was mild or minor, I see no problems if he passes the tests and some qualified expert clears him. So if they don't have a problem with it, why should you?

That bit about feeling strongly about it then stop watching football didn't translate as well as I wanted so disregard that part.

From the research I could find thats not true,if you can find research different please post it.From what Ive found football players hit by a hard tackle face the same g's as a race car driver in a crash.Of course every crash and or tackle would be different,but they are in the same ballpark.

"According to a Virginia Tech study, a tackle like Trufant's probably caused Lewis's head to accelerate in his helmet at 30 to 60 g's. VT researchers gather data with the Head Impact Telemetry System, which employs sensors and wireless transmitters in helmets. "We see 100-g impacts all the time," says Stefan Duma, director of the university's Center for Injury Biomechanics, "and several over 150 g's."

Read more: Football Physics: The Anatomy of a Hit - Popular Mechanics
Football Physics: The Anatomy of a Hit - Popular Mechanics

The Goat · 10-12-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

From the research I could find thats not true,if you can find research different please post it.From what Ive found football players hit by a hard tackle face the same g's as a race car driver in a crash.Of course every crash and or tackle would be different,but they are in the same ballpark.

"According to a Virginia Tech study, a tackle like Trufant's probably caused Lewis's head to accelerate in his helmet at 30 to 60 g's. VT researchers gather data with the Head Impact Telemetry System, which employs sensors and wireless transmitters in helmets. "We see 100-g impacts all the time," says Stefan Duma, director of the university's Center for Injury Biomechanics, "and several over 150 g's."

Read more: Football Physics: The Anatomy of a Hit - Popular Mechanics
Football Physics: The Anatomy of a Hit - Popular Mechanics

That's interesting stuff. Seems like common sense though too.

SmootSmack · 10-12-2012, 02:24 PM

RG3 good to go...team being very vague on whether Garcon is though

10-12-2012, 12:50 AM	#122
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,021	Re: Week 6 Washington Redskins vs Minnesota Vikings Pregame Thread I don't really watch college football. Is Cousin's mobile? We need a mobile QB to score points consistently, and Rex can't waddle away from pressure to save his life. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes he eats you.

10-12-2012, 03:13 AM	#125
REDSKINS4ever The Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Born and raised in D.C. and now lives in Harlem, New York Posts: 2,030	Re: Week 6 Washington Redskins vs Minnesota Vikings Pregame Thread Kirk Cousins was projected to be a 2nd round pick. How he fell to the 4th round no one knows. Mike Shanahan did the right thing in selecting him. He was too good to pass up when he was available. In conjunction with RG3's concussion, it was a wise move for the Redskins to select Cousins when they got the opportunity.

10-12-2012, 11:11 AM	#128
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 44 Posts: 1,277	Re: Week 6 Washington Redskins vs Minnesota Vikings Pregame Thread Man, the Redskins really need a win this weekend. To think they might beat the Giants or the Steelers on the road the next couple of weeks would be really optimistic. If they are not careful, they are going to go back into that category of playing meaningless games for the rest of the year as early as October. I think they can beat the Panther before the Bye in Week 9, but if they loose 3 more before then, none of us will care. Come on Skins!

10-12-2012, 11:26 AM	#129
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10-12-2012, 11:33 AM	#130
Meks The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 27 Posts: 1,744	Re: Week 6 Washington Redskins vs Minnesota Vikings Pregame Thread i think hes a great leader __________________ NFL officiating is BY FAR the worst in proffessional sports. Except no substitutions... worse or not!! R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

10-12-2012, 11:42 AM	#131
53Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,354	Re: Week 6 Washington Redskins vs Minnesota Vikings Pregame Thread Fletch is a great leader. He can't give the secondary more talent. __________________ "Cautiously And Optimistically... Looking Forward To Change"

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