Skins/Giants post game thread

[rbanerjee23]

The defense played a good game overall and 3 fumbles lost by the offense is not going to get the job done against most teams, least of all the defending SB champs.

BUT HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU LET VICTOR CRUZ BEHIND YOU? Nicks is playing at 80%, they're down with a lot of ground to cover so they're probably not going to run, they don't have a beast TE -- the only person they are going to is Cruz and he is somehow wide open?

All the comments about the Giants team beating the 49ers are kind of stupid -- you can't justify losing like that. Any rationalizations are specious. The offense put up 480 yards and RG3 played like a champ to the point where the opposition is calling him the best QB they've played. This loss rests solely on the entire defense, Haslett included

[Brody81]

I know I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but this needs to be Moss's last year. Don't get me wrong, he is a true Redskins and has played well this year, but he is part of the old losing mentality that this team needs to shake. How many times has he fumbled or dropped passes in crucial situations through out his career? Enough is enough.. We don't need Griffin to start believing he cant win, and guys like Moss will always choke in big situations.. We need playmakers that believe they will always win.. Just my too cents..

P.S. Someone please fire Jim Hasslet..

[skinsfaninok]

Loss sucks but I'm already over it, all I have to say is we have RG3 and no one else is playing like he is right now period. The guy just makes play after play, skins will be in every game and we are the future of the nfc just b patient

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Totally hear you, and you are rite - I will go on record now to say our defensive personell is shit, especially with RAK and Carriker out - lol. Its Hasletts track record that makes me wonder though. If he had success elswhere Id say "hey I cant wait till this guy gets the players and we see his Defense come into its own. But he has been in the league for years and has been shitcanned by the Saints and the Rams, and when he went to Pittsburgh he took a really good defense and for three years they got worse under him???? Im just not sure where we are going with him. Atleast if we give Morris a shot we know what we have in him come the offseason and it makes our decision easier. Listen the bottom line is our Defense is thee worst in the NFL - so how can it get worse if we "experiment" now?

Exactly -- I didn't understand why there was all the excitement under Haslett. He hasn't exactly had a lot of success in other places.

[Bushead]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

The defense played a good game overall and 3 fumbles lost by the offense is not going to get the job done against most teams, least of all the defending SB champs.

BUT HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU LET VICTOR CRUZ BEHIND YOU? Nicks is playing at 80%, they're down with a lot of ground to cover so they're probably not going to run, they don't have a beast TE -- the only person they are going to is Cruz and he is somehow wide open?

All the comments about the Giants team beating the 49ers are kind of stupid -- you can't justify losing like that. Any rationalizations are specious. The offense put up 480 yards and RG3 played like a champ to the point where the opposition is calling him the best QB they've played. This loss rests solely on the entire defense, Haslett included

Yards don't matter when you have all those turnovers. Def. when many happened deep in Giants territory.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Brody81

I know I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but this needs to be Moss's last year. Don't get me wrong, he is a true Redskins and has played well this year, but he is part of the old losing mentality that this team needs to shake. How many times has he fumbled or dropped passes in crucial situations through out his career? Enough is enough.. We don't need Griffin to start believing he cant win, and guys like Moss will always choke in big situations.. We need playmakers that believe they will always win.. Just my too cents..

P.S. Someone please fire Jim Hasslet..

This probably is Moss's last year, but he is not even an issue. Has he fumbled away and dropped alot of passes in his career? Im seriously asking that - if he has I havent noticed. Never knew he was such a liability with games on the line. He is also a nice veteran target for RG-3, and I think he is very far away from anything that is wrong with this team. I dont buy that - he is part of the losing mentality crap either - so is Fletch than I guess. I actually feel bad for him that he played with garbage qb's his whole career and now in his twilight he finally has a good one.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Brody81

I know I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but this needs to be Moss's last year. Don't get me wrong, he is a true Redskins and has played well this year, but he is part of the old losing mentality that this team needs to shake. How many times has he fumbled or dropped passes in crucial situations through out his career? Enough is enough.. We don't need Griffin to start believing he cant win, and guys like Moss will always choke in big situations.. We need playmakers that believe they will always win.. Just my too cents..

P.S. Someone please fire Jim Hasslet..

The guy caught what should've been the game winner. Had Cruz not bent over the secondary with no vaseline, everyone would be saying Moss needs to be starting. Usually he's reliable and clutch. It's a bitch he fumbled while we were driving, but I can't throw this loss on Moss.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

You misunderstand me. We came in to the year with a reject unit and prayers before the season started. Jackson, Merriweather and Williams were brought in to supplement Gomes and Doughty. If that's the best we could have done, so be it.

Apologies. Just seen a few posts/tweets that blame the FO for the safety position, and haven't seen any suggestions as to what they could have actually done better.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

The guy caught what should've been the game winner. Had Cruz not bent over the secondary with no vaseline, everyone would be saying Moss needs to be starting. Usually he's reliable and clutch. It's a bitch he fumbled while we were driving, but I can't throw this loss on Moss.

Yeah I don't understand y moss should b out? He's older but dude is still pretty good, look what he did today.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

So you want to go back to trading all of our picks for washed up players and signing lazy players to 100 mil contracts over drafting RG3, Morris, Kerrigan, and other younger players. Shanny deserves a fair amount of lumps, mainly trading for McNabb. But we have some pretty good young players, and we could rarely say that during the Snyderatto era.

Ok, after reading most of the chicken little stories, I might as well add one for Mooby's list.

If we are blaming people on the sideline for the Cruz catch, I say we blame RG3 for it. He is supposed to be Superman and clearly he didnt circle the globe fast enough to reverse time and give us another shot at that play. Trade him for a 7th rounder in 2035 and lets move on with the rebuild. Am I doing the hate for my favorite team properly?

Pretty sure criticizing Shanahan and allen does not mean wanting Cerrato and Snyder running things. It just means Shanahan has proven he's as bad here as he was in Denver when he got fired for being a bad football coach. and Allen is just as bad a GM here as he was in Tampa bay.

[skinsfaninok]

The giants did win The SUPER BOWL, not like they aren't one of the elite teams or anything

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Apologies. Just seen a few posts/tweets that blame the FO for the safety position, and haven't seen any suggestions as to what they could have actually done better.

Dude, we're fans -- our function is to moan and bitch when we lose. If the FO messes up, as they've done, we're supposed to rip them. They are the ones getting paid to make the decisions, why is it on us to suggest something else?

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by Bushead

Yards don't matter when you have all those turnovers. Def. when many happened deep in Giants territory.

Agreed -- but the game was lost on one play and the Redskins offense wasn't on the field.

[CultBrennan59]

Side note.

We may want to change that banner...


No Garcon, Orakpo is done for the year, Fletcher is hurt, Davis is done for the year....If RG3 goes down...Its done!!!

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by punch it in

This probably is Moss's last year, but he is not even an issue. Has he fumbled away and dropped alot of passes in his career? Im seriously asking that - if he has I havent noticed. Never knew he was such a liability with games on the line. He is also a nice veteran target for RG-3, and I think he is very far away from anything that is wrong with this team. I dont buy that - he is part of the losing mentality crap either - so is Fletch than I guess. I actually feel bad for him that he played with garbage qb's his whole career and now in his twilight he finally has a good one.

Has he fumbled away and dropped alot of passes in his career? In critical situation- Yes. With the game on the line, he is 50-50.