Skins/Giants post game thread

[JoeRedskin]

And to be clear, I am NOT calling for Haslett's head. The more I watch, the more it seems like he is doing his best to make lemon ade out of a bunch of lemons.

[Deivybaby]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

Shanahan messed up the first two years that he has been here, but we are now in year #1 with a rookie QB. He isn't going anywhere after this season, maybe next year if we have a losing record.

The FO has made some early mistakes too with the trade for McNabb, but overall have made our team a lot younger and we don't over pay for FA's that's a big win in my book. I think if we didn't have the cap penalty we would have addressed more needs this offseason, but couldn't.

Thank u!!!!! People need to realize rg3 or not we should of been a rebuilf team year 1 ans this year is it thats not good. We will suck till we have a FO that can give us a very good D and give rg3 better weapons.

[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Apology accepted. I've been one of those all along more worried about our secondary than anything else. I don't know what the FO could have done differently ... kept Landry? Made a stonger play for B. Carr? The troll calling for signing B. Sanders ... please.

I don't know how they could have fixed it ... but it needed to be fixed. They made an effort to do it on the cheap and gambled.

With that said, it has been 3 years and we have gotten worse, not better in our defensive backfield over those 3 years. Is that Allen's fault? Shanahan's? Haslett's? To me, unless you can figure out why it's gone wrong, you can't really begin to fix it.

Cap penalty probably cost us Carr.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by punch it in

about winning the division or being 5-4 going into the bye?

Division

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN

Osi Umenyiora on RGIII: "That guy is flat-out unbelievable. I’m not even going to lie. That’s the best quarterback we’ve played this year."






Both of our safeties are out. Who exactly should they have brought in that would have done any better? I floated this before (not you) and still haven't received a answer to this.

The jets are starting two fa safeties and are at least doing adequate at the position. The jags and texans each brought in fa safeties a year ago and produced top defenses. You do have to find guys that fit the scheme, which is what we were hoping to do with Jackson, but when you load up on the meriweathers and Williams of the world, this is the result.

Doughty is actually having a pretty good year, but Gomes has been a big disappointment.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

Shanahan messed up the first two years that he has been here, but we are now in year #1 with a rookie QB. He isn't going anywhere after this season, maybe next year if we have a losing record.

The FO has made some early mistakes too with the trade for McNabb, but overall have made our team a lot younger and we don't over pay for FA's that's a big win in my book. I think if we didn't have the cap penalty we would have addressed more needs this offseason, but couldn't.

And he's screwed up a lot this year two. A ton of the same mistakes.

The cap penalty can't be an excuse. It sucks, but it is what it is. We went from having an unfathomable amount of cap room to a realistic amount. That should not break a season.

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

And he's screwed up a lot this year two. A ton of the same mistakes.

The cap penalty can't be an excuse. It sucks, but it is what it is. We went from having an unfathomable amount of cap room to a realistic amount. That should not break a season.

Ok give me the screw ups this year.

[Deivybaby]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Cap penalty probably cost us Carr.

Cortland finnegan would of been nice i sure miss the 4-3 D.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Division

Lol Just checking. Will have to wait a while longer for it. Thats all. Just got one for my birthday anyway so barring some unforseen coffee accident your off the hook. When we win the division of course.


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[RGIII]

Manning and Cruz said that they saw the coverage pre-snap. That makes me mad because Haslett and Raheem has to know their players strenghts and weaknesses. The players have to know too.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Did people in this thread really expect playoffs this year? For the realistic fans, this team is really getting better. Best rookie QB since?

When is it reasonable to expect playoffs? This is year 3. Next year is year four and you have the built in excuses of 1) not having a first round pick, and 2) still having the cap penalty. So I guess no playoffs next year either.

Bottom line, if this team can't get it done, there should be changes. Today doesn't have to be a huge setback, but the Redskins have a history of letting these become setbacks.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Pretty sure criticizing Shanahan and allen does not mean wanting Cerrato and Snyder running things. It just means Shanahan has proven he's as bad here as he was in Denver when he got fired for being a bad football coach. and Allen is just as bad a GM here as he was in Tampa bay.

I didnt realize that winning 2 SB's was the sign of a bad coach. I guess you learn something new every day.

Tampa was also in bad shape when Allen arrived. They were like us with being old and overpriced. And no one there wanted to put in the work anymore since they had a shiny SB ring from a couple years earlier. They were not in the playoffs the year before he arrived. He dropped the dead weight, got them younger, cheaper, and back into the playoffs. Yeah sounds terrible...

If you want to criticize them here, thats fine. But to make the comparisons that you do either means you arent paying attention or are letting hatred blind you.

They took over a team that was bad and in cap trouble. I have criticized Shanny as well, mainly for thinking he could win now when he first showed up. But we are finally heading in the right direction, and we all know if Shanny is fired, that Snyder is taking back over.

They are also operating with 19-20 mil less cap space than just about everyone else. About the cost of a good secondary.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Cap penalty probably cost us Carr.

The year one cap differences between Carr and Garçon were negligible. Had to make a choice.

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

When is it reasonable to expect playoffs? This is year 3. Next year is year four and you have the built in excuses of 1) not having a first round pick, and 2) still having the cap penalty. So I guess no playoffs next year either.

Bottom line, if this team can't get it done, there should be changes. Today doesn't have to be a huge setback, but the Redskins have a history of letting these become setbacks.

Yep fire all the coaches, sounds like a plan. Lets just pretend this year #1 with Shanahan, he's not going anywhere after the season. We have a rookie QB, building from the ground up starting from this year not 2 years ago.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

And he's screwed up a lot this year two. A ton of the same mistakes.

The cap penalty can't be an excuse. It sucks, but it is what it is. We went from having an unfathomable amount of cap room to a realistic amount. That should not break a season.

So you saying having Finnegan on this squad wouldn't have helped this year?