Skins/Giants post game thread

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We're definitely improved from where we were 365 days ago. But most of that improvement was made in December of last year, and/or when we benched John Beck.

No my man Most of that improvement is from Mr Robert Griffin the 3rd

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Royster doesn't even get carries over young and hes a fb. He must not be any good or he just doesn't get the offense or something.

Or the redskins still don't always use personnel to the highest potential. The results have been adequate (3-4!), so why adjust?

Side note, i thought Morris had his best game today.

[imaskin4life]

The defense sucks

But how about the play of your QB at the end of these games! It seems like every game so far he has either put us in position to win/tie/end the game with these late drives. If our record were better you could argue league MVP.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

No my man Most of that improvement is from Mr Robert Griffin the 3rd

We improved from beating the giants by double digits to losing by four.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

No my man Most of that improvement is from Mr Robert Griffin the 3rd

Ya don't say..

He made plays today most vets can't make. The fourth down play. There were a couple of third down plays that were all him being patient. He is unbelievable at times.

Best offensive player we have had since... I can't even answer it. Sammy Baugh?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by imaskin4life

The defense sucks

But how about the play of your QB at the end of these games! It seems like every game so far he has either put us in position to win/tie/end the game with these late drives. If our record were better you could argue league MVP.

He's in the discussion.

[donofriose]

Obviously our secondary sucks, but so does our pass rush. Both the Vikings and the Giants had way too much time. I thought Ryan Kerrigan would have a breakout year instead he is showing how much he needs Orakpo on the other side to be effective. The only time we got to Eli was when the Giants were throwing a screen and got a first time. Defense in general needs to play a lot better. Every phase.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Ok fine grammar aside, I don't agree with him. The FO isn't the problem and neither is the offense. We all know where the problems lie. The defensive back field.

Our O is the leading rushing team, and what third in scoring and yardage overall. We are good on O besides a RT.

Focus this team on finding a new d backfield and another pass rusher and we are good. Ready to contend for the NFC good.

Couldnt agree more. One day well have rak, carriker, garcon, and i really liked bernstine ( saying that rite) all back. In the mean time though I stand by the statement i have made over and over today. We will win the division this year.


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[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We improved from beating the giants by double digits to losing by four.

Really... Comparing this years team to last years... Go back and watch game two in giants stadium last year. If their WRs would have caught the ball we would have been pummeled.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Ok fine grammar aside, I don't agree with him. The FO isn't the problem and neither is the offense. We all know where the problems lie. The defensive back field.

Our O is the leading rushing team, and what third in scoring and yardage overall. We are good on O besides a RT.

Focus this team on finding a new d backfield and another pass rusher and we are good. Ready to contend for the NFC good.

I think we have a good offense, but today the offense made a lot of mistakes early on in the game that led to the loss. They were 0-2 in the redzone, turned the ball over 4 times (3 of them were early on though), and could only muster 3 points off the two picks that the defense had.

[rbanerjee23]

Nobody is calling for Shanahan's or Allen's heads -- It should be noted however that this is year three and we are fielding, by all statistical approximations, the worst secondary in the league. What is scary is that it is not as though we are playing an elite quarterback every week.

Injuries have played their part no doubt and the lack of cap space certainly hurts but Shanahan is getting paid $7 million a year and Allen is getting paid something similar I am sure to sort out these problems and in that regard they have failed. Can anyone say, that with the game on the line, you trust the defense to make a stop? I know I don't.

We have a rookie quarterback starting, a rookie running back, no real #1 receiver and they have looked fantastic so kudos to the front office. But, this is year 3!! How is the defense in this bad of shape? And all arguments about turnovers, defensive scoring etc. are specious -- look up the numbers, we are #29 in total defense, #26 in points per game, and dead last in passing yards per game. Without RG3's brilliance, we would be lucky to have 1 win.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Really... Comparing this years team to last years... Go back and watch game two in giants stadium last year. If their WRs would have caught the ball we would have been pummeled.

Well, sure. That's true.

They had many of the same issues today.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We improved from beating the giants by double digits to losing by four.

O u mean against NY? Thought u meant in general as a whole

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think we have a good offense, but today the offense made a lot of mistakes early on in the game that led to the loss. They were 0-2 in the redzone, turned the ball over 4 times (3 of them were early on though), and could only muster 3 points off the two picks that the defense had.

I know they had a bad day, but had the team in position to win with 1:30 left. 480 yards of offense, but what, 4 or 5 turnovers. Very hard to win in the NFL with that many turnovers. I would say today was definitely a rarity rather than a norm on the TO front.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Obviously our secondary sucks, but so does our pass rush. Both the Vikings and the Giants had way too much time. I thought Ryan Kerrigan would have a breakout year instead he is showing how much he needs Orakpo on the other side to be effective. The only time we got to Eli was when the Giants were throwing a screen and got a first time. Defense in general needs to play a lot better. Every phase.

Something not alot of people are honing in on. If quarterbacks have so much time eventually one wr is going to get open. This is the biggest argument i have about it being haz over the personnel. Either every player on our d is under performing or they arent being put in a position to succeed.


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