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Old 10-21-2012, 05:09 PM   #91
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no, the safety's were not playing 2 deep. They were up just five to seven yards behind the cb's. Williams gambled early and shaded over the help the cb on the outside. The slot receiver easily got past wilson and williams was too far outside to make up the ground to go back to the inside receiver.

The safety's in that situation should have never been that close to the line of scrimmage. They should have been at least another 5 to 10 yards further back and they should not have committed that early in the play. Williams from the snap decided he was going to help the outside cb. Bad coaching. Bad play calling. Bad job by the players involved.
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Raheem Morris been a difference in our secondary? Big NOPE
D. Hall is decent. Pretty good in my mind for the most part. Meriweather hasn't played at all. Doughty is supposed to be a backup. M. Williams has shown he's not dependable at all. C. Griff seems pretty solid, but Wilson I think is kookoo for cocoa puffs.

I just don't think Morris is working with exactly a great crew of guys back there. Can't turn a rock into a diamond.
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I disagree. I think with Eli Manning and our secondary - and the fact that we are on the road - that you play it safe and hope to hell to hold them to a FG -
we'd be 0-7 if all we did was hope to win games.
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No, the safety's were not playing 2 deep. They were up just five to seven yards behind the cb's. Williams gambled early and shaded over the help the cb on the outside. The slot receiver easily got past Wilson and Williams was too far outside to make up the ground to go back to the inside receiver.

The safety's in that situation should have never been that close to the line of scrimmage. They should have been at least another 5 to 10 yards further back and they should not have committed that early in the play. Williams from the snap decided he was going to help the outside CB. Bad coaching. Bad play calling. Bad job by the players involved.
How's that bad coaching? He called a over man double team. Do you want Haslett to step on to the field and hold Williams hips and show him where to line up pre-snap too?
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D. Hall is decent. Pretty good in my mind for the most part. Meriweather hasn't played at all. Doughty is supposed to be a backup. M. Williams has shown he's not dependable at all. C. Griff seems pretty solid, but Wilson I think is kookoo for cocoa puffs.

I just don't think Morris is working with exactly a great crew of guys back there. Can't turn a rock into a diamond.
true. We need to add a new talent at Free Safety and replace D Hall with better talent. keep Wilson. draft another CB and keep Crawford.
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true. We need to add a new talent at Free Safety and replace D Hall with better talent. keep Wilson. draft another CB and keep Crawford.
Speaking of Crawford, he didn't play today, did he?
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I don't toast it, I just agree with skinsfaninoks statement. Everyone here wants the Skins to win. Some of us have just been down this road a little longer. Anything can happen but had the Skins and the Giants both played their best, Giants would still come out on top this season. They are just a more complete team.
Ive been a fan since the late 70's - seen the good, the bad, and the ugly. Not sure how you can make that statement though about the Skins and Giants because if we play our best today we beat them in their house>? 5 turnovers - and we were a minute from beating them?
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Can we all agree that two NFL players should be able to guard one receiver? Jesus christ if i tell my starting corner and safety to guard one person (one person that everyone and their mother knows can stretch the field like pizza dough) i expect them to cover him. It was 2 on one, short pass long pass medium pass behind the back rocket pass whatever, he should not have been an option.
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Sometimes the difference between first place and last place is simply having a safety who can run.

Good job, good effort, RG3.
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Sometimes the difference between first place and last place is simply having a safety who can run.
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No, the safety's were not playing 2 deep. They were up just five to seven yards behind the cb's. Williams gambled early and shaded over the help the cb on the outside. The slot receiver easily got past Wilson and Williams was too far outside to make up the ground to go back to the inside receiver.

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ok. im not sure why the safety is concerned about ANYTHING other than getting beat deep there - he sucks
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we'd be 0-7 if all we did was hope to win games.
I dont mean that you play prevent and safe from start to finish of every game. I mean that you do it when your team has played their hearts out and ELI MANNING (who has made a living of game winning drives ) has the ball with 1:30 left and we have a horrible secondary. I mean - obviously the Giants are going to pass at that point of the game. So - yes - in that postion - on this day - against that QB - you play it safe, and you hope he misses some throws, or they miss the FG - worst case scenario is we have a chance to win in OT.
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This safety situation doesn't bode well for the Steelers game. Considering the Steelers run game is a bit hampered with injuries to Mendenhall AND Redman (though they both may be back next week), if they don't play, expect Big Ben to expose the deep pass all night.
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I dont mean that you play prevent and safe from start to finish of every game. I mean that you do it when your team has played their hearts out and ELI MANNING (who has made a living of game winning drives ) has the ball with 1:30 left and we have a horrible secondary. I mean - obviously the Giants are going to pass at that point of the game. So - yes - in that postion - on this day - against that QB - you play it safe, and you hope he misses some throws, or they miss the FG - worst case scenario is we have a chance to win in OT.
If we let Eli sit in the pocket and we show him standard pass defenses he will torch us for touchdowns every single time, period. I'm done arguing this point.
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There's nothing to argue really, our d sucks period. We give up 27 ppg folks! Is what it is, this team has to have the ball last every game in order to win. Today ny had it with too much time left obviously and they killed us. It's not like today was the first time, we have given up 300 yards to every qb
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