Skins/Giants post game thread

[Kindoy]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I dont mean that you play prevent and safe from start to finish of every game. I mean that you do it when your team has played their hearts out and ELI MANNING (who has made a living of game winning drives ) has the ball with 1:30 left and we have a horrible secondary. I mean - obviously the Giants are going to pass at that point of the game. So - yes - in that postion - on this day - against that QB - you play it safe, and you hope he misses some throws, or they miss the FG - worst case scenario is we have a chance to win in OT.

If we let Eli sit in the pocket and we show him standard pass defenses he will torch us for touchdowns every single time, period. I'm done arguing this point.

[skinsfaninok]

There's nothing to argue really, our d sucks period. We give up 27 ppg folks! Is what it is, this team has to have the ball last every game in order to win. Today ny had it with too much time left obviously and they killed us. It's not like today was the first time, we have given up 300 yards to every qb

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Kindoy

If we let Eli sit in the pocket and we show him standard pass defenses he will torch us for touchdowns every single time, period. I'm done arguing this point.

Were talking about the last 1:30 of the game. OR - im sorry were arguing about it. Its ok to have different opinions - thats the whole point of a post game thread conversation.

[Kindoy]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Were talking about the last 1:30 of the game. OR - im sorry were arguing about it. Its ok to have different opinions - thats the whole point of a post game thread conversation.

at least we can agree on that.

[GTripp0012]

Look, it's someone's fault that Madieu Williams is a significant part of our defense. Obviously, the issues the secondary is having were preventable at some point.

For the future, it's going to have to be a point of emphasis in the draft. There's not a whole lot we can do until then except enjoy the shootouts and hope not to turn the ball over four times next game.

[TheSmurfs22]

While this game stings especially the end. I am watching the Jets game and I have to say at least we are not Jets fans. Sanchez blows!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Yea, you've seen it for sure. But then you know even when the Redskins were at their best, there were always certain teams that had our number. Remember 1989 when the Cowboys went 1-15? guess who they beat?

The Giants not only have a better team but they know how to beat us with a less than stellar effort. As for the Skins, well... they still know how to lose a game. A few years back I used to tell Matty we had losing/wins. This game was a winning/loss at best.

Yes, we should have won today. Hopefully the Giants play as crappy next time we meet them. HTTR!!!

I do remember that. Didnt we beat them in the 90's and hand them like one of their only losses when we were basically losing every game? - However since we beat the Giants twice last year and SHOULD HAVE beat them today (if it werent for the turnovers) im going to disagree that they have our number. I feel like we have theirs acutally. I dont think the Giants played Crappy - I think we played great. Just boils down to turnovers. Hopefully next time we dont have turnovers. HTTR!!!

[FRPLG]

Did anyone actually think we didn't have a legit shot to win that game at the end? We're close to being a good team. We lost to a definitely good team today and didn't play our best. Considering we all had pretty modest expectations I can't get too down.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Well, do you think the Eagles and Cowboys are better than us? I dont. After the game you just watched - do you think we have a shot to beat the Giants at home? - I do. So we are two games out of the division lead with FIVE division games in hand. We have a quarterback and also overshadowed is that we have a field goal kicker. Our d is obviously a liability. The Giants D got gashed today - gashed. Ask Eagle fans what they think of their D. Ask Eagle fans what they think of their O? Ask Dallas fans the same questions. There is ABSOLUTELY no clear cut favorite in the NFC east. The Giants are currently 1-2 in the division (barely). So do not tell me they are running away with anything.

- I don't think they're better than us either, but that doesn't mean we don't beat ourselves and lose. Oh and Michael Vick is undefeated against us when he plays a full game. We just can't seem to beat him or get to him (and thats with Orakpo)

- The guy makes 3 field goals and all of a sudden we have our FG kicker? PLEASE! Billy Cundiff went 4/4 against the Saints and we 'had our FG kicker'

-True there is no clear cut favorite, but a lot of football fans would go with the Giants since they have a DL that can get pressure, a QB, and were just in the super bowl last year when nobody thought they were the favorite to go to the playoffs or even the super bowl.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Look, it's someone's fault that Madieu Williams is a significant part of our defense. Obviously, the issues the secondary is having were preventable at some point.

For the future, it's going to have to be a point of emphasis in the draft. There's not a whole lot we can do until then except enjoy the shootouts and hope not to turn the ball over four times next game.

Me and Gtripp agree on this. Secondary will obviously be a point of emphasis in the offseason, but we are just going to have to live with it until the end of the season.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Did anyone actually think we didn't have a legit shot to win that game at the end? We're close to being a good team. We lost to a definitely good team today and didn't play our best. Considering we all had pretty modest expectations I can't get too down.

I did. But given we had four turnovers and countless penalties today, I guess I shouldn't of had such lofty expectations.

edit: Oh I totally read your post wrong. Thought you said DID. Not didn't.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Bucket

How's that bad coaching? He called a over man double team. Do you want Haslett to step on to the field and hold Williams hips and show him where to line up pre-snap too?

The play call was one of the problems.
Because we were up by 3 and there was what (?) less than 2 minutes left in the game AND it was 3rd and 10. We decide to play tight play man with our safety's playing shallow and moving forward? That goes against everything taught in Defense 101 in that situation.
In that situation the coaches should have told their safety's 'your first steps after the snap is backwards (towards your endzone) then react. Williams fist steps after the snap were forward and to the left. (I sound like Kramer on the spitter episode of Seinfeld.) When your safety's first steps on an obvious pass play are backwards you are less likely to get beat deep. Obviously we would have rather given up a short completion underneath then an easy TD. Our safety's were (1) out of position and (2) running the wrong way.

[Deivybaby]

Originally Posted by mooby

Me and Gtripp agree on this. Secondary will obviously be a point of emphasis in the offseason, but we are just going to have to live with it until the end of the season.

Agreed. The best thing to do atleast is bench Williams is has clearly never been the same since his cincy days and for us to maybe sign some vet safeties in FA or young guys to come in and play. Seems to me we just are horrible at safety and Meriweather is still a question mark.

At this point we best off firing Haz and go ahead and give Raheem the keys to see what he got .

[REDSKINS4ever]

I'm really starting to get sick and tired of the defense blowing leads. The Redskins would be 7-0 or 6-1 if it weren't for their bs secondary.

[Deivybaby]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

I'm really starting to get sick and tired of the defense blowing leads. The Redskins would be 7-0 or 6-1 if it weren't for their bs secondary.

Because of this defense we might end up 6-10 or 7-9 when cut clearly we could be like 5-1 right now and finish 11-5 or 10-6. Our T.O isnt that bad except for today .