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Old 10-22-2012, 11:38 AM   #61
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Which opens the door for the " what if Sean Taylor was still with us?" Seriously though - it is what five years layer and I think we missed him more yesterday than ever.


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I just don't understand why fans refuse to admit that FS has been (and is)one of the weakest points in our defense. When was the last time we had a good FS starting for our defense? Since S. Taylor, we've had these guys at FS:

- A "playing out of position" Laron Landry
- An injury prone Kareem Moore
- An injury prone OJ Atogwe
- Tanard Jackson and his problems
- Slow and old Madieu Williams

I think Horton and Doughty have played FS, I can't be sure. If they did, they had no business playing FS.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:40 AM   #62
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Oh boy, not again with this Hall/Rogers argument
I can recall a time when the majority of the Rogers talk here was centered around "Why the **** did we ****ing drafting Carlos ****ing Rogers!!!!! when we could have ****ing had Shawne Merriman???? ****ing Redskins!!!!!!"
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I just don't understand why fans refuse to admit that FS has been (and is)one of the weakest points in our defense. When was the last time we had a good FS starting for our defense? Since S. Taylor, we've had these guys at FS:

- A "playing out of position" Laron Landry
- An injury prone Kareem Moore
- An injury prone OJ Atogwe
- Tanard Jackson and his problems
- Slow and old Madieu Williams

I think Horton and Doughty have played FS, I can't be sure. If they did, they had no business playing FS.
bottomline, Safety play AGAIN is in the bottom 3 in the league. We are just horrible. When you roll the dice with crap, band-aid, average talent you will get burned 9 times outta 10. Very poor job by Shanny and the FO.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:47 AM   #64
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If only we hadn't let Pat Fischer retire. Then we would need neither Hall nor Rogers.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:49 AM   #65
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If only we hadn't let Pat Fischer retire. Then we would need neither Hall nor Rogers.


Let's bring back Darrell Green! We don't need no stinking safeties!
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:56 AM   #66
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I just don't understand why fans refuse to admit that FS has been (and is)one of the weakest points in our defense. When was the last time we had a good FS starting for our defense? Since S. Taylor, we've had these guys at FS:

- A "playing out of position" Laron Landry
- An injury prone Kareem Moore
- An injury prone OJ Atogwe
- Tanard Jackson and his problems
- Slow and old Madieu Williams

I think Horton and Doughty have played FS, I can't be sure. If they did, they had no business playing FS.
I dont think anybody refuses to admit it. Im not sure how you can if you have even a third of one good eye. Lol. This is one time where i will come to defense of shanny and the FO. Shanny did move Landry back to SS and than get Atogwe ( who at the time seemed like a pretty damn good pick up). It was area 51 all over again. Than Landry got hurt and Atogwe didnt pan out. In this past offseason we obviously made qb and o- line a top priority in the draft ( hate the o-line picks but i guess jury is still out pn rib and gettis). In free agency we had the cap hit and chose to spend what we had on wr's. Cant really argue with that. Nobody sa the Garcon injury coming and I think if he was playing at 100 percent that it would help Morgan and Hank thrive. Im pretty sure that this off season our secondary will be number one priority in the draft and free agency. If next year we dont have a competent pass d and it is year four of Shanallen than there will be a completely reasonable cause to question wtf we are doing as a team.


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If only we hadn't let Pat Fischer retire. Then we would need neither Hall nor Rogers.
It was actually the Paul Krause trade that haunts us today. Set us back decades. Lol.


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It was actually the Paul Krause trade that haunts us today. Set us back decades. Lol.


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It's always hilarious how after a loss the last 20 years of moves come back to haunt us.
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It is such a questionable move. Pretty sure as a team we are out of the woods on that one now though.


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I can recall a time when the majority of the Rogers talk here was centered around "Why the **** did we ****ing drafting Carlos ****ing Rogers!!!!! when we could have ****ing had Shawne Merriman???? ****ing Redskins!!!!!!"



So tell us what you are hearing about Lou Spanos. :cheeky-sm




On another note, seems Carlos isn't having the type of year he had last year. Amazing what one year contracts will do for a player's ability.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:15 PM   #72
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It's hard to blame Morris for a defensive backfield that is without Merriweather and Jackson, two players who were signed to strengthen the backfield. To further complicate matters, the back-ups have been struggling through injuries, the best pass rusher on the team is out for the season, the best DE on the team is out for the season, the MLB and defensive lynchpin is starting to show his age (and he is oooooold) and the 3-4 scheme is mismatched to the skills of the players on the field. I'm not saying that Morris is improving the defense, I just don't think we can rightfully point to him as a reason the secondary has been playing so poorly; there are many mitigating factors. The long and short of it is that this defense is a f*cking mess.
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Somebody has to be blamed for allowing Williams to be so close to the line yesterday. I will go to my grave saying we should have played prevent. With Eli Manning and our secondary in crunch time I absolutely would have played to hold them to a fg and OT there. Eli was missing some short passes yesterday and a fg can always be missed too. We stay in prevent and the worst case scenario is OT. Best is Eli misses or throws a pick or they miss a FG or they simply dont get into FG range - especially with Nicks playing hurt. To let Cruz run strait up the middle of the field in what we knew was a pass situation is just ridiculous.


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So tell us what you are hearing about Lou Spanos. :cheeky-sm




On another note, seems Carlos isn't having the type of year he had last year. Amazing what one year contracts will do for a player's ability.
Lou Spanos? Doubt he's coming back here. Players loved him (and Olivadotti) but the next DC (and again no lock that it will be next year) is already in the NFL
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Somebody has to be blamed for allowing Williams to be so close to the line yesterday. I will go to my grave saying we should have played prevent. With Eli Manning and our secondary in crunch time I absolutely would have played to hold them to a fg and OT there. Eli was missing some short passes yesterday and a fg can always be missed too. We stay in prevent and the worst case scenario is OT. Best is Eli misses or throws a pick or they miss a FG or they simply dont get into FG range - especially with Nicks playing hurt. To let Cruz run strait up the middle of the field in what we knew was a pass situation is just ridiculous.


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I kind of gotta blame Williams for that. He's a veteran who got caught flat footed. I mean Jordan Pugh seemed to know exactly what he had to do. Wiliams got caught planted the other way and he doesn't have the speed to make up for it
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