Samari or Freddy?

dirtbag2112 · 02-28-2005, 01:16 PM

Smoot got torched last year... But so did guys like Chris McAllister and our old friend Champ. I want a guy like Fred who will lay himself (physically) on the line to win a game. As far as heart goes, I'd put Smoot at the top.

jamf · 02-28-2005, 01:28 PM

first off, domestic violence is no laughing matter.

second. right now smoot IS better than rolle. rolle hasnt been playing up to his usuall level since 2001 when he hurt his neck.

like i mentioned in another thread, jerry jones even said smoot is a better cover corner than rolle is. but i think the problem is smoot has trouble with zone coverages.

also keep in mind that smoot was an alternate for the probowl.

another issue with rolle is he could miss playing time next year if he is convicted for beating his wife.

so basicly, the redskins dont want to pay a player they drafted. a player who the fans love.
a player that plays his heart out.
and instead they are going to bring in a guy that has been slowed by injuries, beats his wife, and wants more money?

wonderful...

this sends a terrible message to the fans.

the redskins have to be the worst run football team in the league.

Monksdown · 02-28-2005, 01:29 PM

Samari is 29 years old. Fred Smoot is 26. And while I dont exactly like the deal, it is definitely an upgrade, but at what price? Samari is not into his late 30's yet, so dont compare him to Bruce or Prime Time.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 01:30 PM

Exactly. Not only a terrible message to the fans but starts a TERRIBLE precedent for any other prospective players for the Redskins to sign.

Monksdown · 02-28-2005, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamf

first off, domestic violence is no laughing matter.

second. right now smoot IS better than rolle. rolle hasnt been playing up to his usuall level since 2001 when he hurt his neck.

like i mentioned in another thread, jerry jones even said smoot is a better cover corner than rolle is. but i think the problem is smoot has trouble with zone coverages.

also keep in mind that smoot was an alternate for the probowl.

another issue with rolle is he could miss playing time next year if he is convicted for beating his wife.

so basicly, the redskins dont want to pay a player they drafted. a player who the fans love.
a player that plays his heart out.
and instead they are going to bring in a guy that has been slowed by injuries, beats his wife, and wants more money?

wonderful...

this sends a terrible message to the fans.

the redskins have to be the worst run football team in the league.

what the f does Jerry Jones know? The only thing he's good at his hiring incredibly talented coaches and then scaring them away.

Redskins_P · 02-28-2005, 01:31 PM

I just heard that the Redskins are denying the reports of acquiring Rolle. I don't have a link or anything. It just came on the radio.

I hope it's true!!!

Daseal · 02-28-2005, 01:31 PM

SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOT

God - just give him Rolle's money. Maybe it's a bartering game they're playing to lower Smoot! There's always wishful thinking.

Monksdown · 02-28-2005, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamf

first off, domestic violence is no laughing matter.

second. right now smoot IS better than rolle. rolle hasnt been playing up to his usuall level since 2001 when he hurt his neck.

like i mentioned in another thread, jerry jones even said smoot is a better cover corner than rolle is. but i think the problem is smoot has trouble with zone coverages.

also keep in mind that smoot was an alternate for the probowl.

another issue with rolle is he could miss playing time next year if he is convicted for beating his wife.

so basicly, the redskins dont want to pay a player they drafted. a player who the fans love.
a player that plays his heart out.
and instead they are going to bring in a guy that has been slowed by injuries, beats his wife, and wants more money?

wonderful...

this sends a terrible message to the fans.

the redskins have to be the worst run football team in the league.

What about the Titans, for the worst run football club?

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 01:32 PM

Daseal, that's what I'm thinking (and hoping) too. It's like a huge soap opera. I know we all wanted a boring off-season but at least we all have something to talk about.

Gmanc711 · 02-28-2005, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monksdown

What about the Titans, for the worst run football club?

You could make a case, because of where they are now. However, if we had 5 or 6 straight seasons of competing in the Super Bowl, a couple AFC Title games, division titles and a bunch of playoff apperances. I'll take a few years of "Cap Hell" if we get to have all of that stuff.

Skinsfanforlife · 02-28-2005, 01:36 PM

Hey jamf, Dude I was with until you started quoting Jerry Jones. I agree with you but who really care what Jerry Jones thinks.

Monksdown · 02-28-2005, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

You could make a case, because of where they are now. However, if we had 5 or 6 straight seasons of competing in the Super Bowl, a couple AFC Title games, division titles and a bunch of playoff apperances. I'll take a few years of "Cap Hell" if we get to have all of that stuff.

Why not have your cake and eat it too? Lets go with the Patriots business plan, or hell, lets steal the Oakland A's front office.

Monksdown · 02-28-2005, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offiss

first off, domestic violence is no laughing matter

haha

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 01:42 PM

HAhaha... I wish I would have caught that too.

But remember, it's no laughing matter.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-28-2005, 01:44 PM

I do trust Williams' judgement, but what is he thinking about Smoot? He thinks we should just let him go, no questions asked?! I hate to think that's how he would feel about him.

View Poll Results: 2005 Starting CBs: Springs and...
Smoot	38	65.52%
Harris	4	6.90%
Wilds	5	8.62%
Rolle	7	12.07%
Other (who?)	4	6.90%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

02-28-2005, 01:16 PM	#16
dirtbag2112 Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 293	Re: Samari or Freddy? Smoot got torched last year... But so did guys like Chris McAllister and our old friend Champ. I want a guy like Fred who will lay himself (physically) on the line to win a game. As far as heart goes, I'd put Smoot at the top.

02-28-2005, 01:28 PM	#17
jamf The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 2,178	Re: Samari or Freddy? first off, domestic violence is no laughing matter. second. right now smoot IS better than rolle. rolle hasnt been playing up to his usuall level since 2001 when he hurt his neck. like i mentioned in another thread, jerry jones even said smoot is a better cover corner than rolle is. but i think the problem is smoot has trouble with zone coverages. also keep in mind that smoot was an alternate for the probowl. another issue with rolle is he could miss playing time next year if he is convicted for beating his wife. so basicly, the redskins dont want to pay a player they drafted. a player who the fans love. a player that plays his heart out. and instead they are going to bring in a guy that has been slowed by injuries, beats his wife, and wants more money? wonderful... this sends a terrible message to the fans. the redskins have to be the worst run football team in the league.

02-28-2005, 01:29 PM	#18
Monksdown Robert Griffin III Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 32 Posts: 1,495	Re: Samari or Freddy? Samari is 29 years old. Fred Smoot is 26. And while I dont exactly like the deal, it is definitely an upgrade, but at what price? Samari is not into his late 30's yet, so dont compare him to Bruce or Prime Time. __________________ Robert Griffin III

02-28-2005, 01:30 PM	#19
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: Samari or Freddy? Exactly. Not only a terrible message to the fans but starts a TERRIBLE precedent for any other prospective players for the Redskins to sign. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 01:31 PM	#21
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sterling, VA Age: 34 Posts: 4,065	Re: Samari or Freddy? I just heard that the Redskins are denying the reports of acquiring Rolle. I don't have a link or anything. It just came on the radio. I hope it's true!!!

02-28-2005, 01:31 PM	#22
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: Samari or Freddy? SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOT God - just give him Rolle's money. Maybe it's a bartering game they're playing to lower Smoot! There's always wishful thinking.

02-28-2005, 01:32 PM	#24
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: Samari or Freddy? Daseal, that's what I'm thinking (and hoping) too. It's like a huge soap opera. I know we all wanted a boring off-season but at least we all have something to talk about. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 01:36 PM	#26
Skinsfanforlife Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 76	Re: Samari or Freddy? Hey jamf, Dude I was with until you started quoting Jerry Jones. I agree with you but who really care what Jerry Jones thinks.

02-28-2005, 01:42 PM	#29
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: Samari or Freddy? HAhaha... I wish I would have caught that too. But remember, it's no laughing matter. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-28-2005, 01:44 PM	#30
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: Samari or Freddy? I do trust Williams' judgement, but what is he thinking about Smoot? He thinks we should just let him go, no questions asked?! I hate to think that's how he would feel about him. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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