Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

Originally Posted by Paintrain

What am I missing on Roman? For all of the love he's getting on here, SF is ranked lower than us in all statistical categories offensively. Their defense is top 3 but I never watch Niner games and think, 'wow I wish our offense was like that!'

Originally Posted by Paintrain

If there is a move made against MS (which I still doubt until his contract is up for renewal barring a disaster in 2013) you have to consider the personnel implications of changing coaches, especially on offense. Let's just look at some players who probably won't fit into other schemes (power running game, vertical passing game, etc.) as much as they do our current scheme:
Alfred Morris-One cut, downhill, zone runner. He probably wouldn't be as effective in getting chunk yardage in a power game and wouldn't fit much at all in a spread passing game relying on speed and quickness.
Stieger, Chester, Monty-Playing pretty well as a unit but probably won't fit into a scheme requiring power blocking or pass blocking for a 5-7 step dropback passing game or spread passing game. Even T. Williams to a lesser extent whose strengths are his mobility and athleticism may not be as effective in a power scheme.
Morgan, Hankerson, Garcon- Arguments exist about how productive they are now but they are best suited for a WCO type, YAC passing game, not a spread (none are particularly quick) or vertical (none have blazing speed) passing attack.

Those are just off the top of my head but it's just to make a point that just changing the leadership isn't a magical cure to what ails this team.

While I get the frustration and angst with the results of the current regime, one of the reasons the Giants, Steelers and Packers remain competitive and at or near the top of the league every year is because they have philosophies that the organization is committed to and they draft and coach to those philosophies, not changing them every 2-3 years to suit a new master.

Originally Posted by Paintrain

What am I missing on Roman? For all of the love he's getting on here, SF is ranked lower than us in all statistical categories offensively. Their defense is top 3 but I never watch Niner games and think, 'wow I wish our offense was like that!'

Originally Posted by 53Fan

RG3 and a ton of money could make Gruden and a lot of coaches change their minds about coming here.

Originally Posted by los panda

shanny stated that he plans on subcontracting the head coaching position. he's currently accepting proposals/bids

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I guess thats changed.

Replacing a Shanny with a Gruden, Cowher...just not a strong move imo. Doesnt make sense to me.

A move that I wouldnt mind (braces for attack) when it comes to retread at head coach would be Reid WITHOUT Marty Morningweg coming along.

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Did you see what he did with Luck at Stanford? He can do the same with RGIII, currently with Smith his offense is dink and dunk which makes Smith Successful. He's the only out of 6 or 7 coordinators who has had success with Smith. Roman's style is like Gibbs, big physical OL, a tough pounding type RB and wide open offense with the right QB, in our case RGIII. He did it with Luck, don't go by his #'s look at his success with QB's. He knows to adapt to the type of QB he has.

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yes but the other thing those teams have in common is great qb play which the offenses were built around. We have one now too. It starts there. The D is going to be the big question mark going forward. 4-3 or 3-4?

Originally Posted by Paintrain

So again this goes to my previous post, our roster isn't suited to that style of play. You're good with starting over again with the OL because we aren't big & physical, RB because Morris is perfect for our scheme but probably wouldn't fit as well in others and WR because we don't have weapons for a 'wide open' scheme.

Offense isn't close to an issue for us, we need to fix the D.