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View Poll Results: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?
Yes - fire him now 11 6.51%
Wait til after the season to decide 38 22.49%
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:14 PM   #211
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Nothing is more ridiculous than waiting two years then doing what we should have done three years before.

Sorry bro, but firing Shanahan just isn't the answer right now.

The Offense is clicking pretty well, even with the injuries.

S Teams are average, at least it looks like we finally found a kicker.

I don't think it would hurt anything to make some serious changes on the Defense though. Hell it can't get much worse, so I would not be surprised to see some changes with the defensive coaching staff over the next couple weeks. That, I think is reasonable, if not probable...
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:20 PM   #212
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I'm glad the majority of fans haven't lost their heads just yet.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:26 PM   #213
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Have you read his book?

Safe to say you have to have a pretty big ego to be a great coach in this league. Not that it's a bad thing, I think it comes with the territory.
I meant crazy ego, as in maniacal like some here love to think.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:28 PM   #214
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I'm glad the majority of fans haven't lost their heads just yet.
I think everyone has just institutionalized losing, at least to the point where it doesn't set off red flags anymore.

I don't know how else to explain what goes on. People seem to be really convinced that this is normal. Good for them, I guess.
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Many and I mean many Dallas fans have called in for Garrett's head tonight. You think skins fans r bad today? Should hear some of these Dallas fans
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:43 PM   #216
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

Sorry, I don't see red flags when a team loses on the road to Pittsburgh, or on the road to the defending SB Champs, or even at home to the only remaining undefeated team in the league. Yeah, we could have pulled out a few of the five we have lost, but we didn't. Largely, if not mostly due to our porous defense.

I think it is an understatement to say that the defense has underperformed this year, injuries or not. And I am a fan of some coaching changes on that side of the ball, but beyond that - don't F*** with it.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:44 PM   #217
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

I have not posted in a loooooonnnngggg time, but I just could not resist after seeing this poll.

I know that the NFL is a "win now" league, but seriously? He started with garbage and has put a pretty good product on the field regardless of the current record. The team has so many issues that are out of his control that makes even the thought of his firing absolutely absurd. He took over a team with a so so defense and a terrible offense and has turned it into a team with a terrible defense and a good offense. On top of that the depth is much improved.

Offensively he has put together a pretty decent offensive line. He cleaned house at RB and drafted another 6th round gem. He has brought in a pleathora of recievers that are contributing in many ways. It can still use some work (especially after today), but we all knew that WR was an issue that would have to be addressed next year. Finally and most importantly he drafted the best QB that we have seen in franchise history (no offense to Baugh, Jorgensen, Theisman, or Rypien).

On defense they switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4. They drafted Orakpo and Kerrigan. They put a pretty decent squad together. The problem lies in the fact that we have three major injuries and a suspension that have hampered the defense to this point in the season. Those things are out of his control. I think that barring those things this defense would have looked much different this season. We'll get them back next year. It's no secret that our corners are average at best, but thir weaknesses would have been covered up by a healthy defense at the rest of the positions.

On special teams it seems as if they have finally struck gold at kicker and returner.

Bottom line, the team is much more improved now from when Shannahan took over the team. The team is still in the hunt. They have been in all but 1 game this season. It is realistic that they could finish around .500 or better. I am excited for the rest of the season and I would love to see what additions they make at WR and Corner over the next two years. It is comming together and it is visible, I would love for us to stay patient. I realize that it is a tall order in DC, but I truly believe in the direction that this team is heading.

Edit: I gave them credit for Orakpo and that was incorrect, but I still stand by my statements otherwise.

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Angry where you been?
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Angry where you been?
Long story, but in short "Church".

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Old 10-28-2012, 11:51 PM   #220
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Really?

Ridiculous thread.

I guess it is his fault that 6/7 projected starters ended up on IR/PUP or suspended this year. Not to mention RGIIIs #1 WR hasn't been on the field for several weeks.

If they pay half as much attention to the defense in the coming off season as they did the offense this past off season we will be right in the mix for a run next year.

This thing was a mess when he came aboard and just 2 and a half years into it things are looking bright. Now is not the time to blow it up again...cause that is what happens when you remove a HC. Systems change, schemes change, personnel change, coaches change...You really want to start this whole thing over now?

Not me, not now. See what it looks like two years from now and if we are still treading at .500, then yeah...time for a change.
Huh? Still treading at .500? That was Zorn, not Shanny
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

Nice thread... fire them all..... lol
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Next week they win.... All RG III show.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:07 AM   #223
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What...the...deuce. When did we all "realize" WR would have to be a need after this season? I mean, that statement, if true, indicates Shanny's overall failure here. We JUST spent millions of cap dollars on WRs, at an enormous opportunity cost to boot. And now we need to go get more?! Hellllllloooo Vinny!

Our WR corp isn't the problem. Outside our starting safeties and right tackle, the roster isn't the problem even accounting for the injuries.

And can we stop pretending legitimately good teams don't lose lots of players to injury (but still win anyway)? Bellichick lost Brady for basically a whole season and that team would smoke our gig 9 out of 10 games...and you know it whether you admit. The Steelers were missing their best player on defense (arguably the best player on the team) and running their 3rd string back.

I mean, the excuses for Mike's inability to wins pro football games in this division are spectacular.

But hey, we're a good team, we just don't win lol. It reminds me of the comedians you see joke about deferred success or delayed success in K-12 schools hehe.
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What...the...deuce. When did we all "realize" WR would have to be a need after this season? I mean, that statement, if true, indicates Shanny's overall failure here. We JUST spent millions of cap dollars on WRs, at an enormous opportunity cost to boot. And now we need to go get more?! Hellllllloooo Vinny!
What are you talking about?
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What...the...deuce. When did we all "realize" WR would have to be a need after this season? I mean, that statement, if true, indicates Shanny's overall failure here. We JUST spent millions of cap dollars on WRs, at an enormous opportunity cost to boot. And now we need to go get more?! Hellllllloooo Vinny!

Our WR corp isn't the problem. Outside our starting safeties and right tackle, the roster isn't the problem even accounting for the injuries.

And can we stop pretending legitimately good teams don't lose lots of players to injury (but still win anyway)? Bellichick lost Brady for basically a whole season and that team would smoke our gig 9 out of 10 games...and you know it whether you admit. The Steelers were missing their best player on defense (arguably the best player on the team) and running their 3rd string back.

I mean, the excuses for Mike's inability to wins pro football games in this division are spectacular.

But hey, we're a good team, we just don't win lol. It reminds me of the comedians you see joke about deferred success or delayed success in K-12 schools hehe.
I do not know about anyone else, but I was under the impression that everyone understood that while we brought in Garcon and Morgan that it would not be the end all to WR woes. Quantity never compensates for quality and I thought it was very apparent that those additions (save Garcon) would more than likely be a band aid until the position could be addressed through the draft or with better FA's. At the same time I do not blame them for our losses, but they did play a big part today.

The rest of the losses are due to a vulnerable defense that has been hampered by injuries and a suspension. Even with how bad the defense is the team is still contending. I think that you may have had unrealistic expectations comming into this season. They might have been realistic if we had our starting safties, Orakpo and Carriker. I am pleasantly supprised that they have done this well. I am sorry that they haven't been good enough for you.
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