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Old 10-29-2012, 12:55 AM   #241
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The situation with Garcon kinda reminds me of Andre Carters first year here. I remember people tossing him under the bus and calling him a bum, all before even giving him a fair shot. Difference now with Garcon is injury, gotta at least give the guy a fair shot on the field before writing him off.

I know some don't want to hear the "injury excuse", but it's starting to pile up in a pretty real way. Helu, Orakpo, Carriker, Garcon, Davis, those 5 represent significant losses when you're talking potential difference makers.
Ok then, let's get into it. The Packers won the frikkin Superbowl with something like a third of the roster on IR or seriously banged up. The Superbowl. Muff said. I already covered the Pats w/ Cassell and we're just hours past a game we lost to team missing as much "starter talent" as we have. Any adult, and lots of kids, who follow the game could work up a list of a dozen really, really banged up teams that went to the playoffs etc.

Mike can't get us above .500 in a season, and we're trending downward, both offensively and defensively, week by week.

And I can't let the Garcon "thing" go either. Unless you expect him to significantly outperfrom his best season (played w/ Peyton Manning for 4 years), he's just not going to make much of a difference. He'll replace Moss in production eventually, but I suspect never top Moss' best two or three seasons.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:59 AM   #242
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Because I created it for you and you didn't post there and many of the responses were idiotic. Wasn't worth it
There were some good names thrown in the hat, and I guess I was hoping discussion of them on an individual basis would follow. But whatevs, we'll have lots of those threads toward end of the season and beyond.
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I really like everything you have to say - but we spent a high draft pick on Hank and alot of money on Garcon and Morgan. I was definitely under the impression that they thought they had that particular area squared away.


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It was no secret that Hankerson had problems with the hands comming out of college, but he was still very productive. They thought that they could develop him and it is still possible. I would still make the move on Garcon today given everything that I know. I thought that Morgan was going to be camp fodder and shouldn't have be signed for as much. Honestly, I thought that we had 2 other WR's in camp better than Morgan (Armstrong and what's his name?), but I do not work with the team everyday. I thought and still think that Garcon can replace Moss, but I do not have confidence in anyone else besides Moss being Moss.

Morgan is the only player where I feel that they definately should not have done or could have done better.
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It was no secret that Hankerson had problems with the hands comming out of college, but he was still very productive. They thought that they could develop him and it is still possible. I would still make the move on Garcon today given everything that I know. I thought that Morgan was going to be camp fodder and shouldn't have be signed for as much. Honestly, I thought that we had 2 other WR's in camp better than Morgan (Armstrong and what's his name?), but I do not work with the team everyday. I thought and still think that Garcon can replace Moss, but I do not have confidence in anyone else besides Moss being Moss.

Morgan is the only player where I feel that they definately should not have done or could have done better.
I liked Armstrong too. Is whats his name Terrance Austin? I agree with you that the wr's need to be adressed still and with your takes on all those guys. I think that the team thought it was a done deal though. I dont really sweat the wr's because regardless of todays cluster **** our offense has been a mild surprise to say the least.


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I liked Armstrong too. Is whats his name Terrance Austin? I agree with you that the wr's need to be adressed still and with your takes on all those guys. I think that the team thought it was a done deal though. I dont really sweat the wr's because regardless of todays cluster **** our offense has been a mild surprise to say the least.


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I wish we could revisit what everyone's expectations were back when camp opened. I thought we were talking like .500 at best?
I was thinking .500, and maayyyyybe a winning record if the defense was solid. We know how that's turning out, but I'm thinking at this point we'll probably be slightly below .500. Best case scenario for me right now is .500, but I think we'll end up 7-9 or 6-10 probably. And I'm ok with that, because that's pretty close to what I envisioned going into the season. The only difference was I thought we would be around .500 because it would take RG3 time to adjust, I didn't envision this defensive collapse. Next year if the offense can keep performing at this level, and the defense becomes solid, we can definitely contend for a playoff spot. I just hope RG3 doesn't have the collapse that Cam is having this year.
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Ok then, let's get into it. The Packers won the frikkin Superbowl with something like a third of the roster on IR or seriously banged up. The Superbowl. Muff said. I already covered the Pats w/ Cassell and we're just hours past a game we lost to team missing as much "starter talent" as we have. Any adult, and lots of kids, who follow the game could work up a list of a dozen really, really banged up teams that went to the playoffs etc.

Mike can't get us above .500 in a season, and we're trending downward, both offensively and defensively, week by week.

And I can't let the Garcon "thing" go either. Unless you expect him to significantly outperfrom his best season (played w/ Peyton Manning for 4 years), he's just not going to make much of a difference. He'll replace Moss in production eventually, but I suspect never top Moss' best two or three seasons.
You are literally the only person who believes our offense is trending downward. I mean seriously. You're the only person who thinks everything the offense does, turnovers, w/e, is the fault of the coordinators for calling the wrong plays. It's f'n asinine.

And the hilarious thing is Garcon had his best season as a pro with Dan Orlovsky and that other scrub they had at qb last year, not with Peyton.
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This team has major injuries on defense and outside of RG3 they really dont have much talent at all on offense. I'm surprised at how good they have looked at times considering how little talent this team has. Shanny can stay cause he isnt the problem.
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I really like everything you have to say - but we spent a high draft pick on Hank and alot of money on Garcon and Morgan. I was definitely under the impression that they thought they had that particular area squared away.


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Hank, imo, has been borderline disappointment. He doesnt play fast enough and when he does he drops it. Robinson and Briscoe have done zilch this year. Garcon injuried all year and Morgan is a decent no. 2. Moss is almost done. I dont think WR is squared away at all, in fact its been a major disappointment. Garcon should just IR at this point.
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I get tired of hearing that Garcon is out.WR is the deepest position on the team. Plus we're no talking about Calvin Johnson. The Giants had so many of their players out a few weeks ago and some no name rb and wr's abused Carolina. The good teams can overcome injuries and the bad ones can't.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:14 AM   #252
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Re: Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

Mike Shanahan is a great coach. While that is true, he hasn't been able to get his Redskins to play on the same level as the Giants, Packers, and Saints. Shanahan claimed at the start that Washington was a rebuilding assignment. But it's not entirely his fault that his record as Redskins HC is very poor. I say give him continue to reshape the roster until the Redskins are completely sound on both sides of the ball. He told Snyder in the beginning that the Redskins weren't going to be winners over night. But they could be winners now if not for the pitiful pass defense. He's the one who hired Raheem Morris so it's his fault that the Redskins are losing.
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One bad game by the offense and everyone is talking about how our WRs are all bottom of the barrel? Get real, we have a very legit offense that shot itself in the foot today. The reason we are so upset about them is we are use to getting at least 20 points every game easily. When Garcon comes back, I bet you it becomes even better.

It was clear from watching this game that the offense had to be perfect. The defense didn't even make the Steelers punt until the end of the half! That's not getting a lot of opportunities for more possessions. Then, when you are down points, you can't be balanced. The redskins offense is best when it's balanced so RG doesn't have to throw, throw, throw.

Hall's attitude has been enough for me. He was another Cerrato hail mary and it's time for us to move on.
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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;958386]Mike Shanahan is a great coach. While that is true, he hasn't been able to get his Redskins to play on the same level as the Giants, Packers, and Saints. Shanahan claimed at the start that Washington was a rebuilding assignment. But it's not entirely his fault that his record as Redskins HC is very poor. I say give him continue to reshape the roster until the Redskins are completely sound on both sides of the ball. He told Snyder in the beginning that the Redskins weren't going to be winners over night. But they could be winners now if not for the pitiful pass defense. He's the one who hired Raheem Morris so it's his fault that the Redskins are losing.[/QUOTE
He also said it would take 5 years.....
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